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TimovieMan - 01 July 2015 03:17 PM

I thought Broken Sword was good, but so very very overrated. It’s a mere 3/5 in my book.

GK on the other hand is brilliant, gets a 4.5 in my book, and is in my AG all-time top 20.

GK is by far the better game for me. Better dialogue, better buildup, more satisfying in every way. The pace of GK is one of the best I’ve ever experienced in a game, with the slow start and steadily having the mystery creep up on you until the riveting climax. I’ve rarely seen a game with such a great build-up.
Broken Sword simply can’t compete with that.

And even though I’ll concede that Tim Curry was indeed inconsistent with his acting and dialect, you have to admit that the Cajun narration was as atmospheric as can be…

Exactly this. I already pointed out the difference in quality of pacing, but your elaboration is spot on.

What is your top 20 Tim?

I will concede that the ;pacing is slightly better in GK but I think the way the story unfolds is far superior in broken sword and the game kept you guessing

honestly in GK did anybody not know that Dr john was the bad guy, the dialogue written for his character made it so obvious he might as well as had a neon sign over his head saying don trust me. Like I said I was able to piece the main story line of gk1 together by day 2, not saying thats a bad thing bc its still a great story with the voodoo aspects and all but…...

in broken sword I think the story just kept you guessing more with who is the bad guy and who is not with the assassin and templars. I mean the story must be good dan brown basically stole broken swords story for his book, as well as the assassins creed games lol

TimovieMan - 01 July 2015 03:17 PM

I thought Broken Sword was good, but so very very overrated. It’s a mere 3/5 in my book.

GK on the other hand is brilliant, gets a 4.5 in my book, and is in my AG all-time top 20.

GK is by far the better game for me. Better dialogue, better buildup, more satisfying in every way. The pace of GK is one of the best I’ve ever experienced in a game, with the slow start and steadily having the mystery creep up on you until the riveting climax. I’ve rarely seen a game with such a great build-up.
Broken Sword simply can’t compete with that.

And even though I’ll concede that Tim Curry was indeed inconsistent with his acting and dialect, you have to admit that the Cajun narration was as atmospheric as can be…

sort of the narrator sounded like Miss cleo but I did not have a problem with her, she sometimes talked to slowly for my liking.

I like having this debate bc I can see it going either way. my favorite adventure game of all time is broken sword 1 but Gk 1 has already cracked my top 5. number 2 for me is full throttle but its more for the memories that were created around that game than the actual game. Another game in my top ten would be blade runner. I need to make a top ten list

millenia - 01 July 2015 04:50 PM

I don’t think Gabriel Knight ever was supposed to be a whodunnit thriller where you keep guessing who the bad guy is. It’s about creating the ominous atmosphere, where scary voodoo guys are essential. There is no twist or one big reveal, only the feeling of getting more and more dragged into darkness, and at the same time uncovering the whole fate aspect of it.

see I disagree I mean you can compare the scales from three different snakes to see which one was at the crime scene. I mean was the even necessary we all knew which snake it was way before gabe did. rather its a who done it or not I feel like jane wrote the dr john character a little to on the nose, it would have been cool if he was a red herring instead but oh well.

Plus and I could be wrong here I feel like jane thought the dream sequences would be harder to piece together than they actually were, I figured it out very quickly that the guy being strangled was related to gabriel and that witch was related to gedde somehow.

TimovieMan - 01 July 2015 04:57 PM

millenia - 01 July 2015 04:50 PM

I don’t think Gabriel Knight ever was supposed to be a whodunnit thriller where you keep guessing who the bad guy is. It’s about creating the ominous atmosphere, where scary voodoo guys are essential. There is no twist or one big reveal, only the feeling of getting more and more dragged into darkness, and at the same time uncovering the whole fate aspect of it.

^ This.

still some of dr johns responses were way over the top here is gabriel what can you tell me about this voodoo aspect his reply would always be over dramatic and very angry for no reason, other than he had something to hide

TimovieMan - 01 July 2015 04:57 PM

millenia - 01 July 2015 04:50 PM

I don’t think Gabriel Knight ever was supposed to be a whodunnit thriller where you keep guessing who the bad guy is. It’s about creating the ominous atmosphere, where scary voodoo guys are essential. There is no twist or one big reveal, only the feeling of getting more and more dragged into darkness, and at the same time uncovering the whole fate aspect of it.

^ This.

I’ll add that, originally, the game came with a graphic novel that told Gunter and Tetelo’s story. So you know from the start what the dreams mean, even if Gabriel doesn’t. And from the second you meet Malia at the end of Day 1, you know exactly where the story is going. I don’t think it was ever meant to be a surprise or a mystery.

Kurufinwe - 01 July 2015 05:03 PM

TimovieMan - 01 July 2015 04:57 PM

millenia - 01 July 2015 04:50 PM

I don’t think Gabriel Knight ever was supposed to be a whodunnit thriller where you keep guessing who the bad guy is. It’s about creating the ominous atmosphere, where scary voodoo guys are essential. There is no twist or one big reveal, only the feeling of getting more and more dragged into darkness, and at the same time uncovering the whole fate aspect of it.

^ This.

I’ll add that, originally, the game came with a graphic novel that told Gunter and Tetelo’s story. So you know from the start what the dreams mean, even if Gabriel doesn’t. And from the second you meet Malia at the end of Day 1, you know exactly where the story is going. I don’t think it was ever meant to be a surprise or a mystery.

I had the original as a kid and never got the graphic novel I feel ripped off, a digital version of the graphic novel came with the remake, but when you clicked on it, a message came up not to read it until after day 6 bc it contained spoilers. so I assumed it was suppose to be a mystery in the game until you got to a certain pt in the story. If we were suppose to know about it cool then.

last thing I also think it might be a setting issue for me. while I liked all the information on voodoo and jane implements voodoo in the game in a fun and fascinating way for sure. I have always been a knights, and crusades type of guy, and I love games set in Europe especially ireland. Plus Im a huge Indiana jones fan, and the broken sword games are basically unofficial sequels to those movies lol.

You know the more I think about it george and gabriel might be cousins, just think about it both are blonde, tall, gangly, and a little gaunt. they both get pushed into mysteries that they dont want to be part of and they are both monster hunters in a way I mean george does take on a mummy in broken sword 2. hmmmmmmmmm I think im on to something lol

Slightly favored towards Broken Sword 1.
Both games are excellent on almost all aspects and belong in my Top 10, but especially the fact that Gabriel Knight 1 is one the last games of that era with low-res graphics and the Broken Sword 1 has one the best graphic designs of the newer era, puts Broken Sword 1 just above.