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Looks beautiful! Now if they’ll manage to capture the spirit of predecessor as well, I’m sold.

the gameplay graphics are amazing

yes, it looks much better in gameplay (i was pretty turned down from the teaser). backgrounds are gorgeous

Adventure Games Forever - 20 January 2014 02:16 AM

I agree, it looks more 2D during gameplay, even though it is fully 3D. It is a great looking 2D/3D hybrid.

That’s not full 3D. It’s some kind of hybrid, like you said, that gives the illusion of 3D even though it’s mostly 2D. You won’t see the camera free-roam in the environments like in full 3D games.

It does look amazing though.

Keregioz - 20 January 2014 05:10 AM

Adventure Games Forever - 20 January 2014 02:16 AM

I agree, it looks more 2D during gameplay, even though it is fully 3D. It is a great looking 2D/3D hybrid.

That’s not full 3D. It’s some kind of hybrid, like you said, that gives the illusion of 3D even though it’s mostly 2D. You won’t see the camera free-roam in the environments like in full 3D games.

I was under the impression it’s actually mostly 3D, with some 2D art for the more distant backgrounds (or do I just have my semantics confused, thought “full 3D” just means the scene is rendered in three dimensions, not necessarily free-roaming).

MoP - 20 January 2014 08:50 AM

I was under the impression it’s actually mostly 3D, with some 2D art for the more distant backgrounds (or do I just have my semantics confused, thought “full 3D” just means the scene is rendered in three dimensions, not necessarily free-roaming).

I didn’t mean it’s not 3d because there’s no free roaming, I meant that even if you wanted you can’t free roam, it’s not a fully 3D rendered game. The 3D “effect” only works from the specific camera angle, it’s like an advanced “parallax” effect. At least based on the gameplay video, I may be wrong. Maybe someone has some more insight on the technique that was used.

Keregioz - 20 January 2014 09:02 AM

I didn’t mean is not 3d because there no free roaming, I meant that even if you wanted you can’t free roam, it’s not a fully 3D rendered game. The 3D “effect” only works from the specific camera angle, it’s like an advanced “parallax” effect. At least based on the gameplay video, I may be wrong. Maybe someone has some more insight on the technique that was used.

Well the person from Daedalic “narrating” that gameplay bit says near the beginning “it’s actually a 3D character and 3D scene, but we maintain the good sides of 2D art” and “deformed 3D meshes, and the whole 2D artwork is projected on these meshes”, so it doesn’t sound like just some advanced filtering/layering technique, as an advanced technique of laying 2D art on 3D geometry. If so, I do wonder if it would be easily possible to apply this technique in a free-roaming environment, or if it’s indeed tied in somehow to the fixed camera angle.

MoP - 20 January 2014 09:13 AM

Keregioz - 20 January 2014 09:02 AM

I didn’t mean is not 3d because there no free roaming, I meant that even if you wanted you can’t free roam, it’s not a fully 3D rendered game. The 3D “effect” only works from the specific camera angle, it’s like an advanced “parallax” effect. At least based on the gameplay video, I may be wrong. Maybe someone has some more insight on the technique that was used.

Well the person from Daedalic “narrating” that gameplay bit says near the beginning “it’s actually a 3D character and 3D scene, but we maintain the good sides of 2D art” and “deformed 3D meshes, and the whole 2D artwork is projected on these meshes”, so it doesn’t sound like just some advanced filtering/layering technique, as an advanced technique of laying 2D art on 3D geometry. If so, I do wonder if it would be easily possible to apply this technique in a free-roaming environment, or if it’s indeed tied in somehow to the fixed camera angle.

Yes, that was what I meant by “advanced parallax technique” (I’m not sure what it’s really called).
It has 3D elements on which the 2D art is projected, but you have a restricted camera movement before you realize that it’s not actually a full 3D rendered environment.

(quotes got long enough ) So like a collection of incomplete 3D shapes appropriate for the scene only from the used camera angle; possibly, though I wonder if path-finding wouldn’t be an issue in that case. His use of the term “3D scene” still indicated to me of something more than that (like the textures aren’t there, but the geometry is full), but maybe it was just the easiest way to explain it. Now I’m more interested in the technique than the game