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Oh my… I was really overcomplicating in the time sled puzzle I was trying to turn the whole recipe into roman numerals instead of only CIVIC….
I’m at some point after that. I’ll probably finish the chapter by the weekend.
I’ve finished the chapter too! I got the same text bugs, and had the old lady talking before she appeared. I got a bit lost in Ratzass’ dialogue, and didn’t realise he needed his kidney for quite a while. This chapter was pretty good, and I teared up at the end.
The real problem with reality is the lack of background music.
Knightette of the Order of the Caption
Music is what feelings sound like…
I second everything TimovieMan said (sans his sentiment about “the greatest AG puzzles of all time” )
Hehe.
The more I think about it, the more I like that entire chocolate-making puzzle in Josie’s story. I already liked it from the beginning, but I find it even better in retrospect.
It’s an example of a perfect puzzle for me: it’s logical, you get a rough guideline to help you (so you at least know what you’re supposed to do and you’re never really stuck), it takes quite a few steps to complete (none of which are obtuse - so it’s complex, but perfectly doable), some parts have a very clever (and not too obvious) solution, and the entire thing is even educational because that really is how you make chocolate…
And it even manages to make you crave chocolate, which turns it into a sensory experience…
The truth can’t hurt you, it’s just like the dark: it scares you witless but in time you see things clear and stark. - Elvis Costello
Maybe this time I can be strong, but since I know who I am, I’m probably wrong. Maybe this time I can go far, but thinking about where I’ve been ain’t helping me start. - Michael Kiwanuka
The more I think about it, the more I like that entire chocolate-making puzzle in Josie’s story. I already liked it from the beginning, but I find it even better in retrospect.
It’s an example of a perfect puzzle for me: it’s logical, you get a rough guideline to help you (so you at least know what you’re supposed to do and you’re never really stuck), it takes quite a few steps to complete (none of which are obtuse - so it’s complex, but perfectly doable), some parts have a very clever (and not too obvious) solution, and the entire thing is even educational because that really is how you make chocolate…
And it even manages to make you crave chocolate, which turns it into a sensory experience…
I also liked the puzzle but I got stuck having to use the door to crumble the seeds or something but looking back at it is logical (in an adventure game world ).
Also there is a fun little connection of that chapter with the ice-cream vendor in this one.
The more I think about it, the more I like that entire chocolate-making puzzle in Josie’s story. I already liked it from the beginning, but I find it even better in retrospect.
It’s an example of a perfect puzzle for me [SNIP]
This is cool. There are plenty of articles out there naming and shaming bad puzzles but not so many about the more important category - the good ones. If I had more time I’d love to start a discussion here or in a separate thread about what makes for a great puzzle paired with prominent examples.
I am short on time though so I will restrict myself to agreeing that the chocolate-making puzzle was quite nice but it felt like the hints and nudges (in the brochure, on the walls of the temple, and from Josie) worked too much like a recipe for solving it. That is not necessarily bad but I prefer puzzles where the (entire) flash of inspiration comes from the player. I already sang its praises earlier in the thread but a great example of what I mean (coming from CCS itself to boot) is the bani-acquirement puzzle from Pyotr’s story. That was something else!
I just finished Al Phee’s story. I knew from a few comments earlier in the game that something sad had happened to Jake’s family, but hearing him tell what he went through was a real wrench of the heart. The fact that he overcame it and remained a genuinely kind man really touched me. Great writing there.
I had some difficulties with parts of this one, mostly because the conversation with Ratzass was a bit disjointed. It took me a while to realize that there were some new conversation options after I got my thug certificate.
I believe I said this before, but it’s worth repeating. The voice acting in this game is superb.
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
I should give full credit where full credit is due: the casting and voice direction were all done by Kathleen Bober.
And you can actually hear Kathleen in the game: she was the voice of the dispatcher from York-Easter, in Pyotr’s story!
Josh
I should give full credit where full credit is due: the casting and voice direction were all done by Kathleen Bober.
And you can actually hear Kathleen in the game: she was the voice of the dispatcher from York-Easter, in Pyotr’s story!
You’ve told us about Kathleen-dispatcher-voicedirection already.
Now playing: ——-
Recently finished: don’t remember
Up next: Eh…
Looking forward to: Ithaka of the Clouds; The Last Crown; all the kickstarter adventure games I supported
Sorry, Fien! (HEY! Fien! You’re here!) I didn’t mean to be pathetically repetitive. I’m truly in such a Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded haze that I’m not being as attentive as I ought to be.
Josh
Sorry, Fien! (HEY! Fien! You’re here!)
Don’t worry, I’m not really here.
Now playing: ——-
Recently finished: don’t remember
Up next: Eh…
Looking forward to: Ithaka of the Clouds; The Last Crown; all the kickstarter adventure games I supported
I am so glad that everybody enjoys the game. I admit that the Al Phee quest is my personal favorite. Not only because of Jake’s confession (one of the most touching moments in AG history and most certainly the game’s best moment. I teared too (again). So simple, yet so powerful. The fact that the game’s only “serious” moment is also its best is a fantastic achievement, and surely the game’s peak.), but also for the constant mind-reading in the dialogs (especially the one with the beggar, where you unsuccessfully try to “mind read him”) and the memorable characters, from the old lady (what a lovely criminal Kingpin!) and the receptionist (some of her reactions to your inventory items is simply epic) to the Doctor himself with his excellent creepy voice.
EDIT: I am also happy that no one mentioned any technical problems regarding the video (QuickTime I think) in the confession.
EDIT: I am also happy that no one mentioned any technical problems regarding the video (QuickTime I think) in the confession.
Actually, I may have run into a glitch there. I saw the first part of the video, up to the part where they put their coats on. Then it went black when Jake was describing the fire. I just thought it was intentional as my imagination of the tragedy was certainly vivid enough.
“Rainy days should be spent at home with a cup of tea and a good book.” -Bill Watterson
Sorry, Fien! (HEY! Fien! You’re here!) I didn’t mean to be pathetically repetitive. I’m truly in such a Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded haze that I’m not being as attentive as I ought to be.
Josh
Personally, I wouldn’t mind even if you posted every fifteen minutes with the same lewd joke in Old Church Slavonic. It’s great enough that you and Jim Montanus are around.
Actually, I may have run into a glitch there. I saw the first part of the video, up to the part where they put their coats on. Then it went black when Jake was describing the fire. I just thought it was intentional as my imagination of the tragedy was certainly vivid enough.
There was a second part where they were getting in the car and such. The last 30 seconds or so are black.
If you haven’t seen the complete thing yet, look here.
The truth can’t hurt you, it’s just like the dark: it scares you witless but in time you see things clear and stark. - Elvis Costello
Maybe this time I can be strong, but since I know who I am, I’m probably wrong. Maybe this time I can go far, but thinking about where I’ve been ain’t helping me start. - Michael Kiwanuka
Finished the chapter. That was… unexpected. A really gut-wrenching moment in mostly funny game. I think this has been favorite chapter so far, great puzzles, some funny dialogue playing with the mind reading stuff, great voice-acting and that revelation at the ending.
Concerning the ending at the bar again, maybe it was not a very good idea to give the time sled to the Evil Genius, even without the recipe
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