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I started playing Book One when it first came out (I got about 4-5 hours into it), then put it aside until the remaining chapters were completed and updated to my GOG account. I just picked it up again and decided to start a new game which I knew would wipe out my previous choices, but I didn’t care….I wanted a fresh start.

One thing that I wasn’t prepared for (as I hadn’t kept up on the subsequent chapter development process) was the engine change to Unity. This caught me completely off guard, but it is what it is.

The second thing I noticed is the game starts out differently now than it did in 2014. When I first played it, Zoe saved a falling dreamer, then a vagabond dreamer, then the little girl with monster in the closet nightmares. This is what the view from her hospital room looked like (click thumbnail to view, and click again to enlarge):

This time, there is no falling dreamer and no vagabond. Pretty much right to the monster in the closet. This is the view from the same place before she transports into Dreamland:

So, since I haven’t read much of this thread and certainly wouldn’t easily find my answer (if it’s even here) sifting through 900+ posts, when RTG “upgraded” the graphics, did they also delete some content, like those first two encounters Zoe had with the dreamers in the earlier version? Or am I missing something here?

“Streamlining” the first book happened upon the final book’s release.

I note you also mentioned an engine change to Unity. It always was Unity, but started in Unity 4, rather than Unity 5 as it is now.

You’re right of course, Dale. I’d forgotten that it started out as Unity 4….for some reason I erroneously recalled it being originally released in Unreal something-or-other. 

Dale - 22 July 2016 03:15 PM

” It always was Unity, but started in Unity 4, rather than Unity 5 as it is now.

well, well. that is new(s) for me Mr.Dale, i never was aware as those gamers who knew/know of the engines to the extent (this extend) when defining games and their motors/engines. therefore (as you mentioned) i least/last to know Unreal Engine = Unity4.
so anyways, anyhow let me ask you this which had been confusing me for a while since that unpgrade/(down) took place, (because) its more like a downgrade from my POV otherwise the gamers who talk and see it as an upgrade Untity4/(Unreal) to Unity5
lke the Vid below that is supposed to show the difference in of unity5!!

i dont see it as an upgrade
or maybe i am n need for new glasses?

Mike the Wino - 22 July 2016 02:29 PM

So, since I haven’t read much of this thread and certainly wouldn’t easily find my answer (if it’s even here) sifting through 900+ posts, when RTG “upgraded” the graphics, did they also delete some content, like those first two encounters Zoe had with the dreamers in the earlier version? Or am I missing something here?

It is not just the dreamers that have been removed, but also the third kidbot puzzle and some other things. And more importantly, they are also planning more “streamlining” before the complete edition will be released.

Advie - 22 July 2016 05:17 PM

i dont see it as an upgrade
or maybe i am n need for new glasses?

The upgrade from unity 4 to 5 was mainly a question of performance (and playstation support). It might not look better and at least in some case imo it looks worse, but the performance is now much better with pretty much double FPS.

Kurufinwe - 22 July 2016 05:25 PM

I completely lost interest in Dreamfall: Chapters after the disastrous episode 3 (hard to believe it’s been over a year); I remember the bits with Zoe in Storytime as being by far the best thing in the first three episodes.

That they decided to ditch most of that is the perfect illustration of how far Tornquist’s vision for this game is from what I was looking for.

I kind of agree.
I’m overall more positive of the whole game than you are, but starting with book 3 (by far the weakest book) they went in the exact opposite direction of what I was hoping for, and the changes they are making now are pushing it even more in the wrong direction.

chrissie - 23 July 2016 12:29 PM

Iznogood - 23 July 2016 11:57 AM

And more importantly, they are also planning more “streamlining” before the complete edition will be released.

I’m confused! I’ve downloaded all the chapters (I thought?) aware that some content has been deleted but there’s going to be a complete edition released? which I’m now guessing will be the whole game with more missing?

Yes, though technically it might also contain extra and new content, like Mira’s missing VO in book 5. But they are planning a Complete Edition, Final Edition, Directors Cut or whatever they will end up calling it, and this edition will also be the PS4 and physical release of the game.

One change they have announced for the CE is that the maps in Propast and Macuria will be interactive, so you can teleport to a location you have already visited once instead of running yourself.

Iznogood - 23 July 2016 01:28 PM

Yes, though technically it might also contain extra and new content, like Mira’s missing VO in book 5. But they are planning a Complete Edition, Final Edition, Directors Cut or whatever they will end up calling it, and this edition will also be the PS4 and physical release of the game.

One change they have announced for the CE is that the maps in Propast and Macuria will be interactive, so you can teleport to a location you have already visited once instead of running yourself.

A definitive edition will do,btw glad that didn’t start epi2 yet saved from hundred
minutes of backtracking.

Iznogood - 21 July 2016 07:28 AM

Jabod - 19 July 2016 09:51 AM

Did anyone else wait until all chapters were out before attempting to gain a GOG code? This is what I did but, after 2 emails to RTG spread a couple of weeks apart I’ve heard absolutely nothing back.

I do seem to recall that there have been some similar problems in the past with the GOG codes, though I can’t remember any details.

I you try and post at the RTG forum then I’m sure you will get a quick response, perhaps not from RTG themselves, but at least from someone who might know what the problem is.

Cheers Izno. I had considered doing that when my second email was ignored but thought that I’d ask here first hoping someone else had been caught out like myself and had found a better conduit for an answer. It would appear not

Great game, I enjoyed wandering the streets of Marcuria and music was excellent in some spots. Two large worlds and it was nice to study the towns and alleys by walking the streets. No need for minimaps, Crowboy was enough Story was interesting too. I like Zoe even more than April, but I liked Kian too with his stoic, laconic style. Pretty good voice acting, but the puzzles… oh boy, they are not so good I was happy to see that there were some light puzzles in the game, some decent ones too, but some other “puzzles” or objectives were too vague and without real hints what to do next. But I did enjoy the game, a lot! I`m sure TLJH will happen..