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I wonder what makes Broken Age so innovative to be nominated for the best concept?

DarkEye - 12 February 2016 04:28 PM

I wonder what makes Broken Age so innovative to be nominated for the best concept?

I asked myself the same question. Design-wise, the game is as vanilla as it gets, so it’s got to be something else. The Kickstarter? The open development process?...

Disappointed the way the Aggies went this year but it is what it is…
Her Story is probably going to rack up some awards and judging by the criteria applied it shouldn’t even a be possible nomination

Kurufinwe - 12 February 2016 05:06 PM

DarkEye - 12 February 2016 04:28 PM

I wonder what makes Broken Age so innovative to be nominated for the best concept?

I asked myself the same question. Design-wise, the game is as vanilla as it gets, so it’s got to be something else. The Kickstarter? The open development process?...

Just guessing but it’s probably the story concept

wilco - 12 February 2016 07:16 PM

Disappointed the way the Aggies went this year but it is what it is…
Her Story is probably going to rack up some awards and judging by the criteria applied it shouldn’t even a be possible nomination

Yeah.. shrug. IMO we should just say: the telltale games were not nominated because they were not particularly great. Because yeah… her story does not have puzzles or exploration.
Anyway, the best traditional/non categories are a reminder this was a very good year with extremely solid games. Most of them are without a doubt worthy.

zane - 12 February 2016 07:37 PM

Yeah.. shrug. IMO we should just say: the telltale games were not nominated because they were not particularly great. Because yeah… her story does not have puzzles or exploration.
Anyway, the best traditional/non categories are a reminder this was a very good year with extremely solid games. Most of them are without a doubt worthy.

Tales Borderlands would be nominated for Best Writing - Comedy; Best Acting ; Best Music.
Until Dawn - Best Graphics; Best Gameplay ; Best Animation ; Best Acting ; Best Sound Effects
Everybody’s Gone to the Rapture - Best Everything

But I agree with you, what is nominated this year is really good. From the possible nominations I would take out Broken Age for Dead Synchronicity.

oh HMM yeah, i forgot about until dawn. That is an odd exclusion. That arguably has puzzles sort of, certainly has exploration, and is a very good game also.
I havnt gotten around to this rapture game.

To be honest I don’t understand why Telltale games are not here. If I remember correctly, both The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us were considered, so how do these 2 differ from Game of Thrones or Tales from the Borderlands. Gameplay wise, they are almost identical.

zane - 12 February 2016 07:37 PM

wilco - 12 February 2016 07:16 PM

Disappointed the way the Aggies went this year but it is what it is…
Her Story is probably going to rack up some awards and judging by the criteria applied it shouldn’t even a be possible nomination

Yeah.. shrug. IMO we should just say: the telltale games were not nominated because they were not particularly great. Because yeah… her story does not have puzzles or exploration.

Yes, it does. It has both.

Oscar - 12 February 2016 09:59 PM

zane - 12 February 2016 07:37 PM

wilco - 12 February 2016 07:16 PM

Disappointed the way the Aggies went this year but it is what it is…
Her Story is probably going to rack up some awards and judging by the criteria applied it shouldn’t even a be possible nomination

Yeah.. shrug. IMO we should just say: the telltale games were not nominated because they were not particularly great. Because yeah… her story does not have puzzles or exploration.

Yes, it does. It has both.

arguing that is a stretch. About the same stretch as arguing puzzles and exploration are in tales from the borderlands. And arguably, they are.
I liked her story. But to me first and foremost: it is an interactive indexed script. Within 10 minutes i typed a word that I heard, which had no particular significance, but took me laaaaate into the story in the middle of reveals simply because all of the words are indexed. I dont know whether to call that a puzzle, or google

zane - 12 February 2016 10:42 PM

I liked her story. But to me first and foremost: it is an interactive indexed script. Within 10 minutes i typed a word that I heard, which had no particular significance, but took me laaaaate into the story in the middle of reveals simply because all of the words are indexed. I dont know whether to call that a puzzle, or google

You know very well that isn’t the puzzle. The puzzles in the game involve:
1) Making sense of the statements and making links between them to come up with new keywords
2) Finding ways of seeing material where the 5 video limit doesn’t let you see clips with a large search result
3) Piecing together and interpreting the statements to come up with your idea of what happened, and where you the protagonist fit in the story.

It is only an ‘interactive index of videos’ in the sense that Gabriel Knight 2 is an interactive index of videos.

Oscar - 13 February 2016 02:21 AM

It is only an ‘interactive index of videos’ in the sense that Gabriel Knight 2 is an interactive index of videos.

Oh no. Mechanically, in GK2 you have an inventory, use items on the environment, examine items, interact with them, interview people, splice together recordings, explore locations, and solve a variety of puzzles that are unique to the situation you are in.
Mechanically, in her story you do one thing: type words into a search bar.

zane - 13 February 2016 07:46 AM

Oscar - 13 February 2016 02:21 AM

It is only an ‘interactive index of videos’ in the sense that Gabriel Knight 2 is an interactive index of videos.

Oh no. Mechanically, in GK2 you have an inventory, use items on the environment, examine items, interact with them, interview people, splice together recordings, explore locations, and solve a variety of puzzles that are unique to the situation you are in.
Mechanically, in her story you do one thing: type words into a search bar.

If you are going to ignore all the work the brain does, at least do it consistently: Mechanically, in GK2 all you do is click on things.

See this is how we ended up going from “oh telltale games are just like other adventure games with modernized mechanics” to “whered the game go?”
You cannot tell me that her story has a similar depth of gameplay to GK2. The only thing they have in common is FMV. All that clicking in GK2 is simulating doing many different actions with a narrative that is impacted by those actions. In her story you are digging up the narrative in a non-linear way that is driven by word association. Its clever, but it also has a very stripped down feel compared to the rest of the genre. Similarly to what we are left with for telltale games.