Dreamfall pre-beta demo

[Intrepid Homoludens]

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Did anyone catch this yet?* I played it earlier today. Three words:

OH. MY. GOD.

I can't even begin to describe it. Um, where do I start? Well, from what I know I think it's the start of the story, where you play as Zoe. You're in the streets of Casablanca running around, and you need to get to that skyscraper where your contact is waiting for you (if you know this much, she's the one who got trapped inside that glass chamber by the imposter). There are two puzzles, one in the subway involving a frying pan stuck on the train tracks, and the other one where you have get past the guard in the building's lobby using a tennis racket and a tennis ball. Both puzzles offer at least two solutions. I haven't gone back to discover the alternate solutions yet, but will later this evening.

Graphically it looks incredible! It reminds me of Broken Sword 3, very vibrant, colourful, and rich (although this being a beta demo, some details are still waiting to be worked on, like voiceovers; for now it's all subtitles). The camera movements people were complaining about are actually very nicely done, it allows you to control Zoe without getting in your way. And yes, I used the mouse (no gamepad), and it was very intuitive, MUCH better than the stupid controls for Uru.

Anyway, I CANNOT WAIT for this game. Damn!!! Doesn't come out til around December. :frown:

* Unfortunately it's for press only.

[SoccerDude28]

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Did anyone catch this yet?* I played it earlier today. Three words:

OH. MY. GOD.

I can't even begin to describe it. Um, where do I start? Well, from what I know I think it's the start of the story, where you play as Zoe. You're in the streets of Casablanca running around, and you need to get to that skyscraper where your contact is waiting for you (if you know this much, she's the one who got trapped inside that glass chamber by the imposter). There are two puzzles, one in the subway involving a frying pan stuck on the train tracks, and the other one where you have get past the guard in the building's lobby using a tennis racket and a tennis ball. Both puzzles offer at least two solutions. I haven't gone back to discover the alternate solutions yet, but will later this evening.

Graphically it looks incredible! It reminds me of Broken Sword 3, very vibrant, colourful, and rich (although this being a beta demo, some details are still waiting to be worked on, like voiceovers; for now it's all subtitles). The camera movements people were complaining about are actually very nicely done, it allows you to control Zoe without getting in your way. And yes, I used the mouse (no gamepad), and it was very intuitive, MUCH better than the stupid controls for Uru.

Anyway, I CANNOT WAIT for this game. Damn!!! Doesn't come out til around December. :frown:

* Unfortunately it's for press only.


How come I can't be press :frusty: I wanna play :frown:

[Fairygdmther]

Hey, Trep, you got it too? I got it from MM to demo, and write a preview on. It really looks spectacular, doesn't it? I can't wait to play the whole game! It certainly is easier to get around than URU. How did you get around that receptionist? Did you fight her or talk nice to her and distract her? She was one weird lady! I wish it had some scenes from Arcadia, sigh, but it didn't go that far.

FGM

[squarejawhero]

Unless it's April Fools... are you guys supposed to be talking about this on a public forum?

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Hey, Trep, you got it too? I got it from MM to demo, and write a preview on. It really looks spectacular, doesn't it? I can't wait to play the whole game! It certainly is easier to get around than URU. How did you get around that receptionist? Did you fight her or talk nice to her and distract her? She was one weird lady! I wish it had some scenes from Arcadia, sigh, but it didn't go that far.

I kicked the bitch's ass!! Unfortunately it was too easy, seemed to be tailored more towards n00bies who at least wanna try a bit of action. But still, it is an adveture game, so no issues with me. It's great to finally be able to play that scene after just having to watch it in movie clips. When I replay the demo later I'll try the other non-violet approaches.

What I REALLY loved about it was that the challenges felt very natural and emergent from the story and gameworld, not at all slapped on like other stupid adventures that just dump them in front of you with a sign saying: I AM A PUZZLE! SOLVE ME!

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Unless it's April Fools... are you guys supposed to be talking about this on a public forum?

We didn't need to sign any NDA, only that we not distribute it. Besides, the demo features what's already been shown in the movie clips. This is just a hands-on taste of what to expect.

[Fairygdmther]

Well, I had to use a code name and password to download it. They want a pre-preview written about it for our site, so I don't see why we can't discuss it publicly. Zoë looks much better in the game than with the screenshots, where she looks like she's posing.

Trep, being the coward that I am, I distracted her and got by that way. It took me a couple of times before I got that other one free though, where it's a timed scene. I saved first, luckily. The graphics are much better than TLJ, of course you'd expect that. It really is awesome!

FGM

[Intrepid Homoludens]

The press distribution system they use works similarly to TAC's, where you work with an ftp. So it's almost like it's already there for you.

Yeah, Zoe looks far more gorgeous in motion than static, I agree. I only wish the camera allowed you to freelook so I can check her out from all angles ;) . But I'm not complaining, I still get to see her beauty during the in-game cutscenes and when the camera pans a certain way. Graphics-wise, I'd tend more to not compare it with the 2D TLJ. I mean, it's in real time 3D so I'd have to use a different criteria. That said, it really does have the vibrancy of Broken Sword 3. But we'll see, there are levels in the game that take place at night or in darkened areas.

[Fairygdmther]

I just wish the demo had gone on for a while longer - I wanted to see more! I know they don't have too much ready for public viewing, but what they have is outstanding! TLJ must have been a hard act to follow, but by the looks of what we saw today, Ragnar has outdone himself.

FGM

[nordic_guy]

I can't even begin to describe it. Um, where do I start? Well, from what I know I think it's the start of the story, where you play as Zoe. You're in the streets of Casablanca running around, and you need to get to that skyscraper where your contact is waiting for you (if you know this much, she's the one who got trapped inside that glass chamber by the imposter). There are two puzzles, one in the subway involving a frying pan stuck on the train tracks, and the other one where you have get past the guard in the building's lobby using a tennis racket and a tennis ball. Both puzzles offer at least two solutions. I haven't gone back to discover the alternate solutions yet, but will later this evening.

LMAO. I'm a day late, but happy April's fools day. :)

[Fairygdmther]

Yup, you got us, and so did SquareJawHero! Trep and I cooked this one up - his idea, though. I did get access to Martin Mystère for MM for pre-review, though, so it gave me the idea to use that premise here, where Trep might have access for AG, and me for MM. Happy April Fool's Day!

FGM

[MaryScots]

I did get access to Martin Mystère for MM for pre-review, though, so it gave me the idea to use that premise here, where Trep might have access for AG, and me for MM. Happy April Fool's Day!

Oh my! That was a good one, FGM, and exactly the part which fooled me. It sounded so genuine... :D

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Oh, and one more spoiler from the demo:

APRIL FOOLS, YOU SAPS!

:) Thanks, FGM.

[MaryScots]

This was the only hoax that got me, dammit! :shifty:

I really should calm down but what can I do - Dreamfall is No. 1 on my list. :9~

[LauraMac]

Heyyy That was good!! Damn - you guys got me too. WOO

I love April Fools,. No one has fooled me since ever :D

[AFGNCAAP]

Trep and I cooked this one up - his idea, though.
What a man's gotta do to get any credit...? *Ahem* (http://forums.adventuregamers.com/showthread.php?t=7595) :)

[Fairygdmther]

okay, okay, your idea, but Trep and I made it believable! ;)

BTW - what does AFGNCAAP stand for? I've been meaning to ask you since you entered the tournament at MM last year.

FGM

[AFGNCAAP]

okay, okay, your idea, but Trep and I made it believable! ;)
True.
BTW - what does AFGNCAAP stand for? I've been meaning to ask you since you entered the tournament at MM last year.

FGM
Ageless, Faceless, Gender-Neutral Culturally Ambiguous Adventure Person, as seen in one of the sweetest games ever (http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,475). Always happy to answer this one. :)

And even more off-topic: any plans on a new edition of the tournament? The first one was loads of fun!

[Fairygdmther]

The dynamics have changed considerably at MM since last year. It doesn't look at this time like we will be repeating it. Sorry... :frown:

FGM

[Kolzig]

Hmm when I read this thread earlier today, I was completely fooled. :)

Maybe it was because trep's message time stamp said Today 01:03...

[SoccerDude28]

I fell for this April fool's day 3 times already... Trepsie :shifty: :pan:

[Intrepid Homoludens]

(((((Soccsie)))))

[Fairygdmther]

Hmm when I read this thread earlier today, I was completely fooled. :)

Maybe it was because trep's message time stamp said Today 01:03...

The time stamp reflects your time zone, not Trep's. And since we are 5-6 hours behind you, it was still April Fool's Day for us in the US. ;)

FGM

[Kero]

To Trep and FGM - thanks guys - I truely needed that.

*D *D *D *D *D

[Fairygdmther]

Your welcome, Kero, and welcome to AG! It's nice to have another "older" woman here (I'm 58, and the oldest regular poster). I see you have a lot of adv gaming experience, too. I hope you will be a good resource for us here as well! :D

FGM

[Kero]

Your welcome, Kero, and welcome to AG! It's nice to have another "older" woman here (I'm 58, and the oldest regular poster). I see you have a lot of adv gaming experience, too. I hope you will be a good resource for us here as well! :D

FGM
I'll give it my best shot FGM.*D Though prior to this century my experience was limited to what was available for the MAC. (I should also add for the Commodor and Atari computers) In reading these threads I find myself wishing there was a way to get hold of some of the last century's PC games without having to resort to ebay or its ilk. :frusty: Oh well, just as they came out with re-releases of Atlantis, Beyond Atlantis and Bad Mojo - maybe they'll re-release Obsidian and others like it.

Thanks for the welcome :kiss:

[Fairygdmther]

Well, I think I can safely say you won't see Obsidian rereleased. This incredible game (my all-time favorite), not only did not make enough money to break even, but the company went out of business after it. I had a hard time finding it, but eventually did on eBay. Most people that have it don't want to get rid of it.

Sanitarium was rereleased and is available for about $10, and the advantage of this is that the original release had cd's that could explode in your drive. The new release eliminated this problem.

You may want to look in Game Trader Zone (GameTZ) (http://gametz.com/) to see if anyone is offering it.

FGM

[Jazhara7]

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Did anyone catch this yet?* I played it earlier today. Three words:

OH. MY. GOD.

I can't even begin to describe it. Um, where do I start? Well, from what I know I think it's the start of the story, where you play as Zoe. You're in the streets of Casablanca running around, and you need to get to that skyscraper where your contact is waiting for you (if you know this much, she's the one who got trapped inside that glass chamber by the imposter). There are two puzzles, one in the subway involving a frying pan stuck on the train tracks, and the other one where you have get past the guard in the building's lobby using a tennis racket and a tennis ball. Both puzzles offer at least two solutions. I haven't gone back to discover the alternate solutions yet, but will later this evening.

Graphically it looks incredible! It reminds me of Broken Sword 3, very vibrant, colourful, and rich (although this being a beta demo, some details are still waiting to be worked on, like voiceovers; for now it's all subtitles). The camera movements people were complaining about are actually very nicely done, it allows you to control Zoe without getting in your way. And yes, I used the mouse (no gamepad), and it was very intuitive, MUCH better than the stupid controls for Uru.

Anyway, I CANNOT WAIT for this game. Damn!!! Doesn't come out til around December. :frown:

* Unfortunately it's for press only.


BOLD EMPHASIS IS MINE.

*runs and hides from FGM*



I _COULD_ have imagined it to be a signature of Ragnar, to include a subway puzzle where something is stuck between the train tracks, but I think it is more like a AG forumite signature.

Let me demonstrate:

:pan:
FGM

:pan:
Trepsie

I close my case.

- :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Fairygdmther]

*runs and hides from FGM*


HEY - that was Trep's post! Harrumph! I'm the one who doesn't WANT any violence, remember? Sheesh!

FGM

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Would you prefer being tickled to death with a feather?

[Fairygdmther]

Rhetorical question? or do you want an answer?

FGM

[Jazhara7]

HEY - that was Trep's post! Harrumph! I'm the one who doesn't WANT any violence, remember? Sheesh!

FGM

Yes, but I thought you would hit/smote me for using your line ("Bold emphasis is mine"). :D


But that pan was no violence! It was just my way of petting somebody in a friendly way.


- :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Fairygdmther]

Yes, but I thought you would hit/smote me for using your line ("Bold emphasis is mine"). :D



Ohhhh! Well, no wonder I didn't understand! It isn't my line either - I've seen others use it and thought it was a good idea, so I copied it. And I wasn't referring to you panning us, but toward you're saying, "Runs and hides from FGM", like I would beat you up! Boy, we definitely weren't on the same wavelength! LOL

FGM

[Jazhara7]

Ohhhh! Well, no wonder I didn't understand! It isn't my line either - I've seen others use it and thought it was a good idea, so I copied it. And I wasn't referring to you panning us, but toward you're saying, "Runs and hides from FGM", like I would beat you up! Boy, we definitely weren't on the same wavelength! LOL

FGM


Well, I didn't really think you would beat me up. But maybe pan me. ;)
Or say "Nee!" to me.



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[Intrepid Homoludens]

:D Okay, people. It's obvious we're looking forward to this game. So then tell me, what specifically about Dreamfall are you looking forward to? The story? The characters? That April Ryan's coming back? The beautiful new world to explore? What? What?

[Jazhara7]

I'm looking forward to the continuation of the story, and seeing April again.

Also, maybe we will learn something more about the identity of Lady Alvane.

And I want to know if Cortez is alright. *sniff*

That April Ryan's coming back? The beautiful new world to explore? What? What?


You...you mean April/Gandalf is going to leave Frodo? But...but...but she can't! They have to live happily in the Shire! ;(

I couldn't stand to see those sad Hobbit eyes, when he notices that April/Gandalf is gone? Who is going to play hopscotch with him then? :\


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[Intrepid Homoludens]

What I'm really looking forward to is how each character - Zoe, April, and Kiam - will have their own little personal demons or issues to confront, and how they'll deal with each other on an interpersonal level given their individual natures and psychologies. I've been waiting for an adventure this complex in human interaction since GK3. These three PLAYABLE characters look like they'll have to depend on each other in order to save the world, and that their lives are inevitably intertwined in some way.

[Fairygdmther]

I want to see April Ryan, and hear her story. She seems jaded now, yet wasn't that way at all in TLJ. Zoë seems really cool, yet young, innocent. Kiam doesn't interest me in the slightest. I want to go back to Stark and Arcadia, and see how they've changed. I would like to see the story continued, and see what evolved in the two worlds. Do they now know of the existence of the other? Wah! I just want to play the game NOW!!!

FGM

[Intrepid Homoludens]

From what little I've read about him, Kiam seems like he's destined to question his blind faith in some kind of belief he's been lead to follow. He's an assassin, and from my gleanings he probably kills for a cause, and events in story - possibly his encounter with April and/or Zoe - seem to lead to this questioning.

[fov]

I'll give it my best shot FGM.*D Though prior to this century my experience was limited to what was available for the MAC. (I should also add for the Commodor and Atari computers) In reading these threads I find myself wishing there was a way to get hold of some of the last century's PC games without having to resort to ebay or its ilk.

Thrift stores are your best friends. I was a Mac user and didn't get a PC until 2000 or so, and missed out on a lot of games. I've bought a ton, cheap, at Goodwill and other thrift stores. They're usually CDs mixed in with the music CDs, but sometimes I even find stuff in boxes. It's hit or miss, obviously, but I have collected a huge number of PC games in the past few years and very few were purchased on ebay.

-emily

[Wormsie]

:D Okay, people. It's obvious we're looking forward to this game. So then tell me, what specifically about Dreamfall are you looking forward to? The story? The characters? That April Ryan's coming back? The beautiful new world to explore? What? What?H0t g4y s3x, of course!

[Intrepid Homoludens]

:shifty:

[insane_cobra]

ToTheGame has some screenshots (http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?id=2319), I think at least the one with the staircase is new.

[Intrepid Homoludens]

:9~ I WANT that kitchen.

[Jazhara7]

From what little I've read about him, Kiam seems like he's destined to question his blind faith in some kind of belief he's been lead to follow. He's an assassin, and from my gleanings he probably kills for a cause, and events in story - possibly his encounter with April and/or Zoe - seem to lead to this questioning.

BOLD EMPHASIS IS MINE.

I don't want to be nitpicky, but it is Kian, and not Kiam .


I've seen this mistake a few times, and it makes me mad.

(Don't worry, I'm not going to complain about the dots [I believe they are called "diaeresis"]missing in the name "Zoё", because I know that most people don't have the possibility to type it on their keyboards.)


- :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[RaMa]

I want to see April Ryan, and hear her story. She seems jaded now, yet wasn't that way at all in TLJ. Zoë seems really cool, yet young, innocent. Kiam doesn't interest me in the slightest.
WHat is it with people calling him Kiam? His name is Kian, as it says so on the official site (http://www.dreamfall.com/characters/kian/). I've seen this mistake in a number of previews too. How... odd :crazy:. (Oh, I just read Jaz's post. Go Jaz! ;))

Anyway, I like Kian. He seems like the kind of guy that walks up to someone trying to ask them something in a nice manner for a change (because he normally tends to demand in stead of ask) but soon resorts to intimidation because he has almost no patience and just ain't that nice a person. I would love to see the reactions of the people whom Kian will interrog... nicely ask for some information. :) But he also seems like the kind of guy that gets in touch with his sensitive side once in a while, although he doesn't much like that side and tries to hide it. :P

[Jazhara7]

ToTheGame has some screenshots (http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?id=2319), I think at least the one with the staircase is new.

It's nice to know that even in the future the trashcan can still be found beneath the sink.


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[ZatHraS]

Sanitarium was rereleased and is available for about $10, and the advantage of this is that the original release had cd's that could explode in your drive.
Man I hate when these things happen. My original The Longest Journey CD 4 totally went nuts a couple of years ago ruining the disc drive. Man that was nasty. Had to pirate a copy of Disc Four over the net. :r

[Intrepid Homoludens]

God dammit, people, I AM SORRY!!!

Sheesh, just get one letter off and I get shat on!

[squarejawhero]

LOL, you guys got me.

As for hot gay sex, maybe not - but is THIS A NIPPLE?

http://www.tothegame.com/sshotfeat.asp?screen=3953&pic=5

W00t!

Christ I'm sad. :pan:

[Wormsie]

I don't know if that underwear is very tasteful. Nah, well. It must get hot in Casablanca.

Ragnar jokingly said that the next game would have "more sex, less swearing". We alread know (I hope) that there will be men characters from varous different social, cultural and ethnic backgrounds. Now, the only thing he'd need to do is to combine the two...

A man can dream, can't he...

[squarejawhero]

So from that I understand there'll be a sex scene involving two people from seperate socio-religious backgrounds whilst they both swear in alternate languages! Only less so than the last game!

Intriguing!

And nipples!

[Fairygdmther]

BOLD EMPHASIS IS MINE.
I don't want to be nitpicky, but it is Kian, and not Kiam .

I've seen this mistake a few times, and it makes me mad.

(Don't worry, I'm not going to complain about the dots [I believe they are called "diaeresis"]missing in the name "Zoё", because I know that most people don't have the possibility to type it on their keyboards.)

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I thought it was an "n", but wasn't sure, so I followed Trep's lead there, sorry for not checking myself.
As far as the letters with accents added, it is very easy to do:

Use the Alt key, and the number pad numbers to type in - Hold the alt key, key in 137, then release the Alt key, and ë - Voilà !

I searched the net, but couldn't find the list of all these - if anyone wants a copy of my list of them, PM me with your address, and I'll email you the small notepad file. It will print on one page if you want a hardcopy.

FGM-Lyn

[Wormsie]

Windows has an utility called Character Map. It gives you the keyboard combinations for strange characters. You can access it through Start-> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools if you have installed it.

[Fairygdmther]

Windows has an utility called Character Map. It gives you the kayboard combinations for strange caracters. You can access it through Start-> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools if you have installed it.

Wormsie - I see that, but how do you use it?

FGM-Lyn

[Intrepid Homoludens]

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[Aj_]

I see that, but how do you use it?
By pressing alt plus the numbers it tells you on the numpad, or by selecting it and then it will make the character available to copy and paste.

[Fairygdmther]

Interesting - the number given doesn't correspond to the actual numbers I used to get that character with Alt and the number keypad, in any font. I tried about six different ones and they correspond with each other, but not with my list that I just created today.

FGM-Lyn

[RaMa]

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Baaaaaaaaaad Trep! :( :pan:

[Intrepid Homoludens]

That's what you get for snapping at me.

[RaMa]

*starts crying and hides in a corner* :\

[Intrepid Homoludens]

Sheesh!! Stop being a brat. If Kian were here he'd kick your ass.

[RaMa]

*applaudes* :D That a boy, Trep! :P

[Intrepid Homoludens]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/Bizkit/peoples.gif Yeah right. You just be nice from now on, I know EXACTLY what pisses you off and I just might use that to advantage next time.

[RaMa]

Bring it on! :D ;)

[Jazhara7]

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/Bizkit/peoples.gif Yeah right. You just be nice from now on, I know EXACTLY what pisses you off and I just might use that to advantage next time.


Don't be angry, Trepsie!

After all, your misspelling of the name made me look up what the dots are called, and made find this useful bit of information (which, apparently, no french teacher ever thought about telling me. I guess they are too much used to those rules, to remember them - they put accents automatically :shifty: ):

* French uses grave, acute, circumflex, cedilla and diaeresis. However, not all diacritics occur on all vowels in French:
o Acute only occurs on e (é)
o Grave occurs on e (è), a (à), and u (ù)
o Circumflex occurs on all vowels: e (ê), a (â), i (î), o (ô), and u (û)
o Diaeresis occurs on e (ë), i (ï), u (ü) and y (ÿ) (ÿ is only used in some proper names like Louÿs or placenames like L'Haÿ-Les-Roses, and ü is used in only one noun, capharnaüm, and many proper names like Saül)
o Diactritics are sometimes omitted from capitalized letters, especially in some countries like France.



So I want to thank you with this post.

Thank you Trepsie!


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[Kero]

As I never played Longest Journey I'm looking forward to this one just to see what all the fuss is about. *D

Originally posted by fov -Thrift stores are your best friends.
Thanks for the tip fov - I'll look into it.