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I finished Day Three, but it wasn’t easy. I probably need to wait until more people are done before discussing my problems because they would contain some REALLY big spoilers.

The “Bonus Chapter,” The Last Visit, remains to be played. Are we waiting until everyone has completed the main game before opening it?

Oops, sorry about the missing spoiler tag. I’ve been a terrible commentator—this week has been all kinds of busy and we’re preparing a hefty Asylum update for next Friday. I’ll be back ASAP with replies/comments/trivia

I haven’t finished yet, but I have gotten to the point where I have found the secret room in the chapel.

A few notes on the story (while it is fresh in memory):

The Blackwood’s and Dr. Milton conspired to kill the child, because he had some kind of condition?

We saw someone during the night.
Blackwood account still active.
One empty coffin!
Michael believes that James might still be alive and roaming the place, but if anything I believe it must be Catherine that is still alive, if for no other reason because of the scared look of the body, which would fit better with James’ hearth attack (scared to death)

Milton and Catherine conspiring behind James back, perhaps they are even having an affair?
Catherine talking to other doctors than Milton, including some psychiatrist.
Catherine’s body was never found, confirms my suspicion that she might still be alive.

James going completely bonkers and are obsessed with the mask and the African tribe story, perhaps this is orchestrated by Catherine and Milton in order to declare James insane or drive him to suicide (actual or staged), so they can live happily ever after together.
The tribe story might also be true.
It might be true and orchestrated at the same time, meaning Milton and Catherine might have been plotting to get rid of James, but then the whole curse thing backfired and hit them instead.

Either way, regardless of how everything is connected, the story has me intrigued and I’m very curious to see where all of this takes us - But so far it seem like my earlier suspicion, that there is also more earthbound things going on, was not completely wrong.


I don’t know if this is a bug or I somehow screwed things up, but: I remembered seeing a phone-number for the bank in the safe and now that the phone was working again, I wanted to call them. Unfortunately I had lost my note where I had written it down, so I wanted to check it again, but for some reason I couldn’t move the painting to actually get into the safe, and instead I had to look up the number in a walkthrough.

EDIT: Scratch that, it turns out that it was not a bug, but that I had just screwed things up - I’m too embarrassed to tell you exactly how

This also bring up another issue, why can’t we pick up all those different documents, so we don’t have to return if we want to read them again?
If it was for real, then I know that it would be my first priority!

There are quite a few difficult puzzles in this day, which I like, but unfortunately not all are equally well designed. There are far to many cases where you have to use an exact tool, even though another would have worked just as well. Not in itself a huge problem, and a quite common problem in AG, but it also means that if you overlook an item, like the pliers in the toolbox in the garage (which I did ), then you can spend a loot of time aimlessly wandering the premises without knowing what you are looking for or where to find it.

The block puzzle in the child’s room, to get the combination to the box, would have worked much better if we could actually manipulate the blocks. I had to look up the solution in a walkthrough, mainly because I didn’t realise that they were important, as we couldn’t interact with them in any way whatsoever.

Izno,
I visited the hidden room twice the first time I played the game because it dawned on me that I might need those letters and numbers later in the game.

I haven’t started the 3rd day yet.  I spent most of the day rehanging pictures on my newly painted walls, but I should be able to get to the game tonight.

Seeing as Iz has started the comments, I might as well jump in.

Regarding the bank - You have to go past the painting, then turn around. You will see the hinges on the left side of the painting. Click on them and the safe will open. Of course you’ve already looked up the number, so that knowledge will do you no good whatsoever.

Regarding the Chapel - I found the nail quickly, and found where to put it quickly as well. I immediately noticed the INRI standard. I even hit it with the crowbar. But I failed to look down. When I finally saw the slab in the floor and moved it, I no longer made the connection with the INRI standard. I must have putzed around for 15 minutes before I solved the puzzle.

Regarding the desk puzzle - If there was an external clue that hinted at how to open the box I never saw it. This was a “brute force” solution. I don’t know how many permutations and combinations of possible moves there are - with only one being correct - but it was too many. I didn’t like this puzzle at all.

Phone numbers - I’m not sure why all the phone numbers that one had to call were not pre-entered as options. Or at least entered when the number was discovered. I accidentally transposed two numbers in one of the numbers we needed to dial. I got a busy signal. And kept getting a busy signal without knowing why. I discovered my error quite by accident. But had I not, this would have been a problem that would have kept me from proceeding. A simple “You have dialed a number that is not in service. Please check your number and dial again.” message would have solved everything.

The clock - Even though you had all the required equipment and information to find Catherine’s grave, you can’t do it until after a certain time. ????

Relationships - I can see why Iz’s relationship guide makes sense, but I don’t agree. There are notes that indicate that Catherine and Milton are having some sort of affair. Possibly brought on by JB’s long absences on business. There’s also a note that has JB encouraging Milton to commit murder. We also don’t know who or what is in the small coffin because we didn’t open it. We also know that the body in the large coffin isn’t Catherine’s, because she is buried on the grounds. My guess is that the coffin body is the maid. That leaves JB, Milton and son, Robin, unaccounted for. One must be the entity in the basement. Another must be the entity providing sustenance to the basement person. (Thus, alive but unaccounted for.) Leaving the third in limbo somewhere.

Endgame - Again, this is something that cannot be accomplished until the clock rings a certain time. Aside from that, I must have played the sequence ten times before coming to the conclusion that EVERYTHING there is to do must be done. That includes finding/reading every possible thing/subtitle before you can reach the final scene. Many of those things were, to me, totally irrelevant to actually finding the entity.

Identities - I’ve given my thoughts as to who might be who, but I really have no clue. I hope somebody found some evidence I missed that will clear this up.

There are quite a few difficult puzzles in this day, which I like, but unfortunately not all are equally well designed. There are far to many cases where you have to use an exact tool, even though another would have worked just as well. Not in itself a huge problem, and a quite common problem in AG, but it also means that if you overlook an item

Yes, this was a problem for me too - and also I didn’t like the fact that this game has too many key fetches. Something more original would have been nice.

However, despite this I’ve enjoyed the game so far and have almost finished it.

The horror aspects just keep getting better and better….........

I finished the game. Overall, quite good in my opinion.

The end got me big time, didn’t see that coming at all.

“Identities - I’ve given my thoughts as to who might be who, but I really have no clue. I hope somebody found some evidence I missed that will clear this up.”

I don’t either - no obvious choices to me, a good conversation topic for us here.

Sefir - 27 May 2015 03:27 PM

Iznogood - 27 May 2015 03:04 PM

...I had to look up the solution in a walkthrough…

I would just like to remind everyone that there is no need to consult in walkthroughs!!
Whenever anyone gets stuck, it is easy for the rest of us to give a hint to the right direction…

Yeah I know, but the thing is that I hate stopping when I’m (otherwise) on a roll, just because I get stuck at a puzzle. Taking a pause to think about it, perhaps, but I’m too impatient to wait for what could be a whole day for a hint

Lady Kestrel - 27 May 2015 03:54 PM

Izno,
I visited the hidden room twice the first time I played the game because it dawned on me that I might need those letters and numbers later in the game.

Sefir - 28 May 2015 02:06 AM

Solution for the combination:
Tip 1: Could the solution be someone loved from James and Catherin?
Tip 2: One of the first things someone learns is his own name.
Tip 3: Look better in the crypt and the baby’s room.
Full spoiler of the solution:We already know the first letter of James and Catherine’s child is “R” from the small baby tomb in the crypt. We can also see in the baby’s room that the boxes with the letters “O”,“B”, “I” and “N” are on the floor. We can safely assume that his name was Robin and the corresponding numbers according to the numbered boxes is 5909.

Don’t get me wrong, I actually think it is a pretty clever puzzles, it is just that I think that the link to using letters to solve a number puzzle, is too weak.

I actually did notice those blocks in the children room, but since they are non-interactive, then I kind of wrote them of as background noise, similar to the many other objects in the house. Had we been able to interact with then, like the bicycle in the garage (which I suspect we will need to recharge the car battery), then I would have know it was needed for some puzzle at some time, and I would perhaps had made the connection.

Sefir - 28 May 2015 02:06 AM

Solution for the combination:
Tip 1: Could the solution be someone loved from James and Catherin?
Tip 2: One of the first things someone learns is his own name.
Tip 3: Look better in the crypt and the baby’s room.
Full spoiler of the solution:We already know the first letter of James and Catherine’s child is “R” from the small baby tomb in the crypt. We can also see in the baby’s room that the boxes with the letters “O”,“B”, “I” and “N” are on the floor. We can safely assume that his name was Robin and the corresponding numbers according to the numbered boxes is 5909.

I was either misinterpreted or mis-spoke. Probably both. I found the numerical solution to the combination fairly simple. Although finding and reading the number on the R block took a little time. I was referring to the outer box that required manual moving of parts and clicking of various parts of the liner.