The Broken Sword 4: The Angel of Death Hints Thread

[korine]

I am stuck already, very early in the game. I'm trying to find the way to the street. been on the roof, and got inside the building. I'm trying to find a way for the girl and can't get by some electric cables. having troubles with turning off the fuse-thing.

I have tried everything there is to try, and starting to wonder if there is a solution to this. Clicked on everything and tried my inventory (phone, golfclub, buisenesscard, string) on everything. It scares me if there is some clickable objects I've not notice.. can it be a bug!?

please help me if there is anyone here who also got to play this game this soon.

[Ledz]

The girl needs to hold down the electric switch for you. Now the question is how you get her down there.. :)

[jtoast]

To give you a little more direct push in the right direction....
have a second look at the door

OK, now for my problem....I am in

Istanbul trying to get into the palace. I have both ID's but I can't figure out how to get the picture off the card

[macrokilla]

Okey this is where im stuck:

Im at the hotel. got the lighter and i have got the hotel informationpaper under the door. I understand that i need to do something to get the guy to leave by making the firealarm to start poring out water over him, but i cant figure out how.

[Ledz]

jtoast:

there's a knife on the table in the hotel dining room

macrokilla:

you need to light the dry flowers on the table. if you will have problems doing that...

you need to distract him by opening the window while he dances and then you can light them while he closes it.

[denizay]

does anyone know how to get past the monks at the monestary?

[soring123]

in the hotel, does anybody how can i get the lighter?

[Sudokan]

i'm also stuck in the hotel after, when the elvis guy is in the elevator and i'm supposed to be looking for clues, however i do not know where to start. i already have the pen

[Ledz]

2nd time the game locked up on me without a save!!!!!! Argh!!!

[Mr.Stobbart]

i'm also stuck in the hotel after, when the elvis guy is in the elevator and i'm supposed to be looking for clues, however i do not know where to start. i already have the pen

Hey, how did you get the lighter?? :crazy: I've tried _everything_!!

[Sudokan]

get a bug from underneath the stairs on the first floor, and place it on the clock in the lobby then talk to alfonso about the bugs and the clock and he will leave the reception to check the clock then grab the lighter through the window

[macrokilla]

d'oh, so close! tried that with the flowers (when he dances) but not when trying to open the window... thanks alot for the help anyways :)

[a33a]

I know this sounds stupid, but i'm stuck on the part where you have to climb the scafolding in the palace, any one got any hinters?

nevermind, found it :)

[korine]

[QUOTE=jtoast]To give you a little more direct push in the right direction....
have a second look at the door


have a second look at the door, you say.. don't know if this is gonna help me. there is 3 doors I can have a look at.. I've clicked on all of them several times. tried everything with the lock ect, on the door closest to Anna.

But I'm off to check out the doors again.

[77ste77]

how do u get the fan out iv done the dude and free the girl with pen and paper but stuck now help!

[77ste77]

dont matter iv done it lol just need a rest from trying lol

[Mr.Stobbart]

get a bug from underneath the stairs on the first floor, and place it on the clock in the lobby then talk to alfonso about the bugs and the clock and he will leave the reception to check the clock then grab the lighter through the window

aaah! thank you!! :) Did not see the bugs... guess I have to turn up my screen brightness!!

[MartyMcFly]

Please someone tell me the mouse responsiveness is improved in the final game compared to the demo?

[jtoast]

[QUOTE=jtoast]To give you a little more direct push in the right direction....
have a second look at the door


have a second look at the door, you say.. don't know if this is gonna help me. there is 3 doors I can have a look at.. I've clicked on all of them several times. tried everything with the lock ect, on the door closest to Anna.

But I'm off to check out the doors again.

A little stronger hint would be to

make sure you have done everything you can with the door you got the string from(try using the other button on it...)

[77ste77]

what do u do with the pda when u have hacked the data base he wont leave and i cant think what else to do iv clicked every thing

[jtoast]

what do u do with the pda when u have hacked the data base he wont leave and i cant think what else to do iv clicked every thing

Take a second look at the manuscript

[Jojo]

I feel kinda stupid now, but I'm stuck at the same place as I was in the demo. I'm suppose to find that smouldering log or something, but where the heck is it? I've been looking everywhere!

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Please someone tell me the mouse responsiveness is improved in the final game compared to the demo?
it's improved but still a bit slugish. see my post on the rev. forums

[petewasbristol]

Hi guys
Loving the gmae thus far but have been stuck for the past two hours, i must have missed something obvious, anyone help.....


I have got into the office and i need to get the cabinet open in meat factory, i understand u must need to push it through window into grinder (i think going on what george is saying), i just cant move the damm thing, any help?

[jtoast]

petewasbristo: I had the same problem. to solve it, have a look at the wheels

Jojo, =a new door opened in the first room with the hanging Pigs . You probably didn't notice it. I know I didnt.

[petewasbristol]

that simple!!

Was running around like a maniac for past few hours trying to find some blood or fat to use on the wheels............:crazy: :crazy:


Cheers my friend, onwards with the story!!

[I Love Cookiemonster]

i'm feeling kinda of stupid here. i can't seem to hold the switch up in the old building after you escape from the goons :crazy:

[jtoast]

i'm feeling kinda of stupid here. i can't seem to hold the switch up in the old building after you escape from the goons :crazy:
Read the clues regarding the first post in this thread. You cant do it by yourself...you will need some help.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Read the clues regarding the first post in this thread. You cant do it by yourself...you will need some help.
ahh crap now i feel even more stupid.

[Sudokan]

is there nobody that can help me finding the clues after i get into the hotel room.

[MartyMcFly]

Hey thanks for the reply, im on the rev forums under the name martymcfly, so the mouse is smoother compared to the demo? the game is coming tomorrow, i'll sleep easier now!

[jtoast]

is there nobody that can help me finding the clues after i get into the hotel room.
Which hotel room? If its the first one that was guarded by the elvis guy then

You need to open the door to the cleaning closet. Info on how to do it is already posted


if thats not it, use spoiler tags and be a little more specific.

[rekom23]

Arg, i must be blind, but i can't find the bug in the hotel to get to the lighter... ???

[Dale Baldwin]

You'll need to have got the keycard first, if you haven't already.

[VoodooFX]

How did you guys get a hold on the game so fast? It's not even supposed to ship until today...

Hmmm... :shifty:

[rekom23]

Well ok i don't already own the keycard...

[Dale Baldwin]

How did you guys get a hold on the game so fast? It's not even supposed to ship until today...

Hmmm... :shifty:
The postman delivered mine to me this morning. So there :P

[jtoast]

How did you guys get a hold on the game so fast? It's not even supposed to ship until today...

Hmmm... :shifty:
My little brother works for Gamestop and got me a copy a day early.

[zerocat69]

hi im in topkapi palace i can empty the fountain but dont know how to keep it empty so i can do the next bit many thanks for any help

[jtoast]

Zerocat69 Perhaps if you were to
find a way to shut the pump down.....permanently, instead of just turning it off.

[korine]

stuck again. trying to climb the scafolding in the palace, but i get noticed buy the guards everytime.. I don't see ways to get over the wall.

[jtoast]

stuck again. trying to climb the scafolding in the palace, but i get noticed buy the guards everytime.. I don't see ways to get over the wall.
You did notice there are 2 guards right? Just time it so they are both looking the other way. Also, I don't think its relevant, but just in case...did you find the item on the wall itself?

[korine]

Thanks. Yes, I was only bad with the timing, tried to get over many times. must try again now.. item on the wall itself?

[jtoast]

Yes, there is an item on the top right ledge of the wall itself. I am fairly sure it's not relevant to the solution but since I found/used it before I crossed over I thought I would mention it just in case.

[Dale Baldwin]

You have to use it, otherwise you'll be caught every time.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

How did you guys get a hold on the game so fast? It's not even supposed to ship until today...

Hmmm... :shifty:
I just went to the game shop and bought a copy :pan:

I tryed using the dead bug on the clock but george just keeps telling me it isn't a good idea

[HeinzHarald]

I just went to the game shop and bought a copy :pan:

I tryed using the dead bug on the clock but george just keeps telling me it isn't a good idea

You probably need to investigate it first, and talk to the manager about it.

[77ste77]

has any 1 got to the puzzle with the 3 nights in iv done puzzle 1 and 2 but stuck on the 3rd the coat of arms can any 1 help with this plz

[serrasalmus]

Im at "tried everything stage" of the game....I know it seems like "going back"...but need help....

I Cant work out how to get FAN out of window in hotel room

HELP !!!!

[serrasalmus]

Ahh - Got it now - thanks

Just in case someo0ne else is as mad as me .....


The Vent has the bit with the fans, and an off button to the left. Click the VENT off and then tie the string around the fan. Turn the VENT back on and it shorts out.

[lopo]

A little stronger hint would be to

make sure you have done everything you can with the door you got the string from(try using the other button on it...)

do u have some menthal issues ? why cant u hint out the way to do it ? not over the corner talk ... i write it in spoilers anyway so if ppl dont want to c it then they dont

well i had past that place but the way u describe it was sick ...
if u want help dont make puzzles just write spoiler !!!

[jtoast]

do u have some menthal issues ? why cant u hint out the way to do it ? not over the corner talk ... i write it in spoilers anyway so if ppl dont want to c it then they dont
because "Hint" means just that...a hint. Others with the same problem will end up reading this thread and they may not want the full solution.


If all you want is a walkthrough instead of hints, head over to

http://www.revolution.co.uk/bs4_hints.php

[jtoast]

has any 1 got to the puzzle with the 3 nights in iv done puzzle 1 and 2 but stuck on the 3rd the coat of arms can any 1 help with this plz
I just gave up on it and grabbed the solution from the walkthrough I linked above.

[lopo]

If all you want is a walkthrough instead of hints, head over to

http://www.revolution.co.uk/bs4_hints.php

well i know that site but the broken sword games are easy they dont have puzzles like safecracker or so on ... BS is like useng items and ask questions

[jtoast]

well i had past that place but the way u describe it was sick ...
if u want help dont make puzzles just write spoiler !!!
*shrug* considering I got several PM's saying "oh thats how you do it", I don't think the problem was with my description...

[petewasbristol]

any 1 got to the puzzle with the 3 nights in iv done puzzle 1 and 2 but stuck on the 3rd the coat of arms can any 1 help with this plz

This took me an hour to work out but once i did and it worked the satisfaction was imense:)


The manuscript holds the clues to all the puzzles with the knights shields, check out the 4 nights at top of manucript and u can see one is facing away (this is the one u need to fill in) read part 1 and 2 of manuscript and it says about the knights being paired as one on a horse (something like that), i then noticed that the first two nights were a pair. Off top of my head top left symbol of first night shield is a yellow star with a blue background, the next knights top left symbol is blue star with yellow background....so i put one and one together and di same technique for final pair of knights....and it worked!!

[Daz]

Need help: Just made it across from the roof on the crane thing and turned the crane round and gone into the building with the broken floor boards. Now what? Doesn't seems to be anything i can use to get over the other side.

[rainking2020]

Anyone know how to get past the monks in the monastary garden?

[Antares]

I am stuck already, very early in the game. I'm trying to find the way to the street. been on the roof, and got inside the building. I'm trying to find a way for the girl and can't get by some electric cables. having troubles with turning off the fuse-thing.

I have tried everything there is to try, and starting to wonder if there is a solution to this. Clicked on everything and tried my inventory (phone, golfclub, buisenesscard, string) on everything. It scares me if there is some clickable objects I've not notice.. can it be a bug!?

please help me if there is anyone here who also got to play this game this soon.
you have to get behind the first door on the wrecked building and close it.then lock it with the lock on the top of the door and then kick the damn thing.the wall will fall, making a bridge for the girl...then ask her to hold the panel switch to turn off the cables...

[lopo]

you have to get behind the first door on the wrecked building and close it.then lock it with the lock on the top of the door and then kick the damn thing.the wall will fall, making a bridge for the girl...then ask her to hold the panel switch to turn off the cables...

did u read all 3 pages ? i think he got past that part already

[jtoast]

Anyone know how to get past the monks in the monastary garden?
Here's a hint, they hate pidgeons as much as the other priest with the car did.

[zerocat69]

hi im in the catacombs and i need to know the 3 positions of the cross ive checked the manuscript and i can see the positions on there but can i get it right please help

[ChaDeaM]

Well, it took me a long time to understand this puzzle, but in the end I managed...

First thing you have to understand is that the positions you have in the manuscript are the missing crosses, not the crosses you roll.

Second thing, each line has a regularity in the way the crosses "roll".
The middle line's regularity is between those regularities.

I won't tell you the exact solution, unless you ask it. (think a little by yourself :9)

[denizay]

does anyone know the order of the angles of the Crosses in the first catacombs puzzle

[seagul]

How do i get into anna-marias appartment? How do i distract the nun?

[jtoast]

How do i get into anna-marias appartment? How do i distract the nun?
You don't have to distract her. You just jump onto the balcony next to her and wait for her to go back inside. You can then jump back over and continue across.

[Rjupiter]

I cant believe I am stuck so early in the game, first for me, but anyway I at the begining where I have to walk the ledge over to a fire escape with a guy below kicking the door. Where the heck do I go? I walked back and forth , looked all around the room etc... and still he won't climb up the ladder or down it. So what do I do?

So you know, yes I put the fan on the elevator, got my club back and went down the stairs to hear someone at the door.

[jtoast]

I cant believe I am stuck so early in the game, first for me, but anyway I at the begining where I have to walk the ledge over to a fire escape with a guy below kicking the door. Where the heck do I go? I walked back and forth , looked all around the room etc... and still he won't climb up the ladder or down it. So what do I do?

So you know, yes I put the fan on the elevator, got my club back and went down the stairs to hear someone at the door.
Funky interface issue. Click on one of the ladder rungs. you wont get a hotspot indicator but he will begin to climb.

[Rjupiter]

Funky interface issue. Click on one of the ladder rungs. you wont get a hotspot indicator but he will begin to climb.

thanks, got it.

[jtoast]

Bah! Anyone able to finish this?

I am at the point in the catacombs where I need to find the Ark and save Nico but when I regain control after the cutscene where Anna says "The Ark is that way" I am locked in place between Anna and a column. She won't move and I cant talk to her or give her anything so all I can do is spin in place. Have reloaded a previous save 3 times and each time end up locked in.

Anyone else have this issue or am I the only one with a bugged copy? :(

[denizay]

Bah! Anyone able to finish this?

I am at the point in the catacombs where I need to find the Ark and save Nico but when I regain control after the cutscene where Anna says "The Ark is that way" I am locked in place between Anna and a column. She won't move and I cant talk to her or give her anything so all I can do is spin in place. Have reloaded a previous save 3 times and each time end up locked in.

Anyone else have this issue or am I the only one with a bugged copy? :(


hey matew, this sint to do with your question but i was wondering.. do u know teh sequence for teh crosses ?

[denizay]

does anyone know the order of the angles of the Crosses in the first catacombs puzzle

[Baloshi]

does anyone know the order of the angles of the Crosses in the first catacombs puzzle

Be Warn this is heavy spoiler:

The line one order is 1 move anticlockwise. Line three is 3 moves anticlockwise. So, in this order line 2 is 2 moves anticlockwise and assuming the missing crosses are the one shown in the manuscript, the missing cross in the middle line is "CARRYING.".

[denizay]

Be Warn this is heavy spoiler:

The line one order is 1 move anticlockwise. Line three is 3 moves anticlockwise. So, in this order line 2 is 2 moves anticlockwise and assuming the missing crosses are the one shown in the manuscript, the missing cross in the middle line is "CARRYING.".


i still have no idea what to do, do u think you could better phrase your instructions ?

[motionfield]

hi, this seems like a nice community. I'm starting to think something is wrong with my savegame. I've checked the official hints and my situation isn't even mentioned as a puzzle there.

I've just reached the roof of the topkapi palace. There's just a guard with his back towards the small area you're in and a small crack in a wall you can interact with. the only thing I have in the inventory is the squeeky toy. when clicking on the crack in the wall stobbart says "a loose stone lying on the roof" , which, frankly doesn't make any sense. how do you get past the guard?

never mind. sorry.
the game must have been buggy. I clicked that crack a hundred times yesterday but george just shrugged or said he couldn't do anything.

[motionfield]

i still have no idea what to do, do u think you could better phrase your instructions ?

there's four symbols on top of the shield and four at the bottom. think of the four blank squares in the middle as the ones missing. every vertical line of 3 symbols should have one of each of the three symbols you can switch between.

[Daz]

Stuck again...

I am at the part where... i am shimmying round the apartments outside. I made it inside Georges old room and found the rosery beads, can't go out the door due to a guard outside. Went back on the ledge of the apartments again and there is nowhere to go :(

[Spybreaka]

Okay so I'm stuck at Topkapi...

This may have already been covered, but I can't seem to figure it out. I've gotten past the first guard by using the ID card, but I can't figure out what to do from here. I think I'm supposed to get past that guard that's walking back and forth, but Anne Marie refuses to distract him so I'm stumped. Any hints? Thanks!

[Rjupiter]

anyone know how to get past the nun? I tried the hint/suggestion previously given and it does not work.

[JazzyC]

Ok, I'm a bit further behind than most people here. But I can't get past the hotel. How do I get the keycard. I can't find this bug you mention, nor get the lighter.

Help, thanks

[Rjupiter]

Ok, I'm a bit further behind than most people here. But I can't get past the hotel. How do I get the keycard. I can't find this bug you mention, nor get the lighter.


Ok, to get the keycard you need to get it away from the guy who has one. The man sitting in the lobby read a book on geese, he has it as a bookmark. If you go through all the conversations with him and with the owner of the motel you will hit upon what you need to do. It involves making a call.

As for the bug you can only get it after you got the card and you need it (the bug) to get the lighter which is sitting behind the sliding glass door at the front desk.

[JazzyC]

Ok, to get the keycard you need to get it away from the guy who has one. The man sitting in the lobby read a book on geese, he has it as a bookmark. If you go through all the conversations with him and with the owner of the motel you will hit upon what you need to do. It involves making a call.

As for the bug you can only get it after you got the card and you need it (the bug) to get the lighter which is sitting behind the sliding glass door at the front desk.



Is mine messed up then? I've clicked on everything I can, sliding partition, clock, door, vending machines, taps, book. And I've spoken all the way with Alfonso and the guy with the book. Yet, I can't click on the phone or get that conversation.

I'm at a complete loss.

[Rjupiter]

Is mine messed up then? I've clicked on everything I can, sliding partition, clock, door, vending machines, taps, book. And I've spoken all the way with Alfonso and the guy with the book. Yet, I can't click on the phone or get that conversation.

I'm at a complete loss.


Have you tried your PDA? Try looking/using that.
Have you -


talked with the book guy and Alfonso about him (book guy) waiting for a call?have you picked you the flyer for the hotel?

[psisal]

anyone know how to get past the nun? I tried the hint/suggestion previously given and it does not work.

A series of hints...
As far as I know, the nun on the balcony won't go back inside unless she has a reason to.

If you've tried getting into the building at all from street-level, you'd have noticed that she hates people coming into the building...

As in, maybe you need to make it seem as though someone's coming into the building.

But she needs to be able to hear the attempt.

Hope that helps!

[psisal]

Need help: Just made it across from the roof on the crane thing and turned the crane round and gone into the building with the broken floor boards. Now what? Doesn't seems to be anything i can use to get over the other side.

The floor isn't the only way to get around.

[Rjupiter]

A series of hints...
As far as I know, the nun on the balcony won't go back inside unless she has a reason to.

If you've tried getting into the building at all from street-level, you'd have noticed that she hates people coming into the building...

As in, maybe you need to make it seem as though someone's coming into the building.

But she needs to be able to hear the attempt.

Hope that helps!

that's brill, thanks

[gman116]

can ne1 helpme

[mmm9955]

hi!

i have the full version, and am stuck trying to get into the vatican... i've talked to sister angelica as much as i can, and the woman who opens the door, but i can't find any way to proceed! please help!

[mmm9955]

for the crosses on the knights shield, look at the bottom of your manuscript page, and whatever doesn't appear either there or on the shield is the answer; so if there's a crescent on his shield and a star on your mss. in the first position, roll the first dial to the cross

[fajoca]

Unable to substitute photo of Stobbart on document to enter Topkapi.
I did cut the photo with the knife. Help please!

[RLacey]

Unable to substitute photo of Stobbart on document to enter Topkapi.
I did cut the photo with the knife. Help please!

Once you've cut George's picture out you should just be able to use it on the identity card to stick it over the top. Make sure that you've examined the ID card so that it's separated from the map and the paperclip in your inventory.

[fajoca]

Thanks RLacey!

[RLacey]

No problem. I spent a few minutes wondering if I was supposed to find some glue somewhere...

[jtoast]

Is mine messed up then? I've clicked on everything I can, sliding partition, clock, door, vending machines, taps, book. And I've spoken all the way with Alfonso and the guy with the book. Yet, I can't click on the phone or get that conversation.

I'm at a complete loss.
Make sure that you have actually looked at the flyer the guy at the desk gives you. It has the hotel phone number on it.

[jtoast]

hi!

i have the full version, and am stuck trying to get into the vatican... i've talked to sister angelica as much as i can, and the woman who opens the door, but i can't find any way to proceed! please help!
You need to get the schedule off Sister Angelica's desk. In order to do this you will have to access some information remotely.

[Patti]

I think you all must be really clever cos I started the original new B/S/4 today and am stuck in the hotel lobby. I cant get upstairs to Anna maria's room:frusty:

Anyone got any clues/hints/spoilers please?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Ooops seems I posted this in the wrong thread...sorry

[psisal]

At the bomb defusing section, has anyone ran into the problem of:

Not being able to "double up" the "mirrors" as shown in the Revolution hints section? (Yes, I cheated after beating my head bloody against the monitor... who knew they could be doubled up?) I'm unable to drag the second mirror over to the first once the first one's in position. Neither am I able to stick two mirrors together then move them over.

:\

[psisal]

If you're stuck in the lobby area, it means you need to get through those key-carded doors. You need a key card to get through. Start exploring the lobby & its occupants along those lines - that should get you started. If you need more specific help, you should clarify since it's a bit vague atm. :)

[psisal]

In response to your forum pm,

can ne1 helpme

You need to be WAY more specific than "I'm stuck at Topkapi palace" for anyone to be able to help you in a constructive fashion.

Please refer to the sensible guidelines posted by the mods:

If your post is a hint request:

-Tell us what you've done before getting stuck, and what you've tried already to get "unstuck"

-Please use spoiler tags if you're giving away crucial information (which most hint requests do!) To make a spoiler, type [spoiler ]spoiler goes here[ /spoiler ] -- but leave the spaces out between "spoiler" and the brackets. You don't necessarily have to put your entire post in spoiler tags. Please use your judgement. (Be aware that a mod may go in and add spoiler tags to your posts.)

To read spoilers, just put your mouse over the white box and highlight the text that's hidden there.

[Rjupiter]

A series of hints...
As far as I know, the nun on the balcony won't go back inside unless she has a reason to.

If you've tried getting into the building at all from street-level, you'd have noticed that she hates people coming into the building...

As in, maybe you need to make it seem as though someone's coming into the building.

But she needs to be able to hear the attempt.

Hope that helps!


Ok, well I did not get to try this until today so I am still a bit stuck.
There is -

No way to try and enter the nun's building or get here attention frrom street level that I saw. Only the intercom which is the same set of diaolgue for all of them. So that still leaves me hanging from the balcony next to her. I mean I can try and rattle the door of the balcony I am on which makes her go inside but she comes out that door and kicks me out of the building. So.... what?

[psisal]

Devout she may be, but the nun has not been granted teleportation powers by the Lord - it takes her a few moments to get from point A to point B ;).

[Rjupiter]

Devout she may be, but the nun has not been granted teleportation powers by the Lord - it takes her a few moments to get from point A to point B ;).

LOL :)

I thought of that but are you seriously telling me that I can press the button and then manage to make it all the waay over to the other building and across the balcony before she gets back? I can't get anyone else to push the button either and well even after I push it I have to stay and "do the conversation" etc....

I hate this fiddly junk sometimes.

[psisal]

Weeelll...

I was being deliberately vague about point A and point B - variables! There is more than one way to make her leave her spot by attracting her attention... And think simple. I hope I'm not making you think it's more complicated than it is.

And if you hate fiddly junk, just wait till you reach the other nuns... ;)

[Rjupiter]

Weeelll...

I was being deliberately vague about point A and point B - variables! There is more than one way to make her leave her spot by attracting her attention...

And if you hate fiddly junk, just wait till you reach the other nuns... ;)

ok, I give up (on this part and I was sailing through it so well) could you just give the answer? please? thank you :)

[psisal]

What worked for me was to try to get in through the initial balcony, scurry back to the railing, and exercise divine sustained speed-sidling skills all the way to the other end while the nun hustled over to check out who was trying to break in.

Now please catch up with me at the bomb defusing part! :D

[Rjupiter]

What worked for me was to try to get in through the initial balcony, scurry back to the railing, and exercise divine sustained speed-sidling skills all the way to the other end while the nun hustled over to check out who was trying to break in.


oh geez I knew that and tried that. I keep getting caught. I am to slow I guess.

[psisal]

oh geez I knew that and tried that. I keep getting caught. I am to slow I guess.

Well, the controls are rather unwieldy, especially when combined with sluggish mouse movement. I almost suffered an aneurysm trying to maneuver around the factory while dashing with the ice cube... :crazy:

[Rjupiter]

Well, the controls are rather unwieldy, especially when combined with sluggish mouse movement. I almost suffered an aneurysm trying to maneuver around the factory while dashing with the ice cube... :crazy:


yeah that was a pain, the controls are ridiculous but thankfully I finally got it. :)

[Rjupiter]

any tips on the monks? I am throwing bread like crazy to attract pidgeons but monks don't move. I might just to be to tired to play this now, I am getting very lazy. :D

[fajoca]

Have interacted with Acre, London, Paris and Cyprus. Then I am supposed to turn the plynth in the direction of the other three cities. ( Yes I am ashamed, but read the walkthrough...) But every time I touch it I die. Could someone help please!

[psisal]

What surprised me about the monks was that
They seem to be very deaf and have no peripheral vision to speak of.

The pidgeons need to be up close and personal if they want attention.

Hope that helps - if not, I think sleep will help you better than my hints. :P

@fajoca: Please edit your post and use spoiler tags for god's sake!

Are you sure you've "interacted" with the cities? Maybe you just "looked" at them. You need to interact by right-clicking and choosing the cogwheels.

[Rjupiter]

What surprised me about the monks was that
They seem to be very deaf and have no peripheral vision to speak of.

The pidgeons need to be up close and personal if they want attention.

Hope that helps - if not, I think sleep will help you better than my hints. :P

@fajoca: Please edit your post and use spoiler tags for god's sake!

Are you sure you've "interacted" with the cities? Maybe you just "looked" at them. You need to interact by right-clicking and choosing the cogwheels.


Yeah, I have been walking about and while I do get caught sometimes (was testing perimeter, the trouble is -

I have tried putting the bread (in the only place it will go) on the pedestales with the plants, but I am guessing that it needs to go on the one in the upper right corner? But I can't see how to get to it seeing as how there are to many monks by it.

or I could be wrong. cloack and dagger stuff bugs me. :P

[psisal]

Maybe I was just damn lucky the first time, but I just walked right up to the "it" spot from where I would have approached if I were actually there (from a blind spot) without so much as a "What the...?" from the monks. :) I think you're on the right track.

[micky34]

hi i'm stuck at geogre's office i've got the manuscript done the pda thing but all that comes up is the welcome notice and baphomet click on the red parts of the database and looked back at the manuscript and clicked on everything won't tell me where to go next won't let me leave keeps saying i need to research the manuscript tryed going back on the website on pda keeps coming up system busy testing can someone help please.:frown:

[psisal]

@micky34:

You have to make sure you read through all the pages on the PDA for one thing (not just the first page you get when you click on a "red" link), then go back to the manuscript and click on all the spots (some of which George will make additional comments on now that he's read up on background information). If you do it right, you should be able to leave when he indicates that the next destination is now clear after you click on one of the major spots on the manuscript.

Specifically, the Citadel - George needs to realize where that is.

[Patti]

I bought this game from Amazon, and for 2 days, the first couple of times I put the disc in, I get this error message.....grrrrrrr


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/354159/SWORDERROR.jpg

[RLacey]

A number have people seem to be having SecureRom problems. Try contact SecureRom at the link in that error message, because they should be able to help you out.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

I'm in the vatican, working on the door with the crosses. i can't seem to open them. i tryed the positions of jezus on the manuscript but it doens't seem to work.

[Dale Baldwin]

The positions on the manuscript refer to something else rather than the position you need to turn the dials to.
Further info:
The positions fill in the three empty spaces in the grid.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

The positions on the manuscript refer to something else rather than the position you need to turn the dials to.
Further info:
The positions fill in the three empty spaces in the grid.
I should have known

[psisal]

I'm still wondering if anyone else has encountered a problem at the bomb defusing section:

I'm not able to "double up" the "mirrors" as shown in the Revolution hints section? (Yes, I cheated after beating my head bloody against the monitor... who knew they could be doubled up?) I'm unable to drag the second mirror over to the first once the first one's in position. Neither am I able to stick two mirrors together then move them over.

Any insight would be most welcome.

[Rjupiter]

Maybe I was just damn lucky the first time, but I just walked right up to the "it" spot from where I would have approached if I were actually there (from a blind spot) without so much as a "What the...?" from the monks. :) I think you're on the right track.


You were lucky and very skilled. Me I had to be very freakin patient to get it just right, Tricky tricky that one was.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

I'm still wondering if anyone else has encountered a problem at the bomb defusing section:

I'm not able to "double up" the "mirrors" as shown in the Revolution hints section? (Yes, I cheated after beating my head bloody against the monitor... who knew they could be doubled up?) I'm unable to drag the second mirror over to the first once the first one's in position. Neither am I able to stick two mirrors together then move them over.

Any insight would be most welcome.
there are 2 mirrors that can reflect on both sides. they look slightly different from the others. just look closely and you'll find them

[I Love Cookiemonster]

I should have known

I still can't see any patern. a little bit more help please

[Rjupiter]

Ok, I am in Phoenix and because of this games bad engine and crappy collision detection in this area I am flummoxed, again! This is getting redundant I know. :)

Anywho -


I know what I am suppose to do at the point I am at. Which is trying to open Manyards safe. But After I lower the crane down into the hole in the floor I can't seem to figure out how to attach it to the safe. It looks like it is missing the hook at the end but I have walked around and around and around and I can't find a hook to put on it. So either it is there and I am not seeing cause of game bug or I have not found the hook?

Help, Please, Thanks.

[Daz]

Anyone help plz..

Back at Nico's from the monestary. Got the package from the priest guy, shown him the pen, but he won't tell me anymore untill Nico goes away and does some womanly chors <-- joke..

How can i get rid of Nico so the priest dude divulges some info on the black cat club..?

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Anyone help plz..

Back at Nico's from the monestary. Got the package from the priest guy, shown him the pen, but he won't tell me anymore untill Nico goes away and does some womanly chors <-- joke..

How can i get rid of Nico so the priest dude divulges some info on the black cat club..?
Look at the package

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Ok, I am in Phoenix and because of this games bad engine and crappy collision detection in this area I am flummoxed, again! This is getting redundant I know. :)

Anywho -


I know what I am suppose to do at the point I am at. Which is trying to open Manyards safe. But After I lower the crane down into the hole in the floor I can't seem to figure out how to attach it to the safe. It looks like it is missing the hook at the end but I have walked around and around and around and I can't find a hook to put on it. So either it is there and I am not seeing cause of game bug or I have not found the hook?

Help, Please, Thanks.Look in the kitchen

[Daz]

Look at the package

Jeez thats the only place i never bothered to look lol, thx

[Patti]

Thanx Rlacey, I'll do that

[Daz]

Now this is seriously ******* me off
Whats the story with the PDA bomb thing, i have it it spot on twice and failed twice defusing the bomb, now i can't get the sequence just quite right grrrrrr

[fajoca]

Have interacted with Acre, London, Paris and Cyprus, using the cog wheels. The plynth with the cherub does not allow me to touch it and I don't see other ways to proceed. Apreciate help

[psisal]

@I Love Cookiemonster
Thanks! The solution image posted in Revolutions hint/tips seems to have come from a beta version since it clearly shows two mirrors back to back - I guess they changed it to a double-sided mirror for whatever reason, and peeking at their solution only threw me off. Serves me right for giving up too early.

@fajoca
What's with the not-spoiler spoiler tags... :pan: Oh okay, you fixed it.
You need to have taken the angel statue (after going through the Acre/London/Paris/Cyprus sequence) in order to free up the plinth for interaction.

[Patti]

I'm viewing the manuscript with Anna maria and I cant put it down, I'm clicking my left mouse button, my right and using my wheel. But nothing happens. Has anyone else had this problem?

[jtoast]

red arrow, bottom right corner

[Patti]

Thanx but I dont see one

[seagul]

Perhaps you haven' t looked at every item on the manuscript?

[Patti]

I was wondering that...I'll go over it again...thanx for the help guys


I tried that ....I even went back to my last save and did it all again, and have the same problem...what could be wrong?

[Dale Baldwin]

Are you sure that your video resolution is set properly and that all of the display is actually on-screen?

[seagul]

How many items do you count on the manuscript?
In total i count
18.

[Patti]

My pc just re-booted itself, and so have only just come back online.

I re-set the resolution I'll turn the game back on and recheck.

I didnt count how many items I had on the manuscript, I know there was 4 lots of text...I'll check that also. Thanx guys.


I just read it all again, and counted that amount ** NOW!!!!!! I have the red curly arrow at the bottom.

Sorry guys to be such a bimbo, and thanx for all your suggestions.

[Rjupiter]

Look in the kitchen

thanks :)

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Near the end:

can someone tell me the position of the crosses in the vatican?

[Rjupiter]

Near the end:

can someone tell me the position of the crosses in the vatican?


the manuscript that Gilleni gave you gives you a clue. Look in the upper right hand corner.

[I Love Cookiemonster]

the manuscript that Gilleni gave you gives you a clue. Look in the upper right hand corner.

I know there the missing crosses on the plate, but i still can't see a pattern

[jtoast]

I know there the missing crosses on the plate, but i still can't see a pattern

a hint would be that you need one of each in each column and the rows are "offset" by one or more "clicks". Also, the crosses on the manuscript are the ones that belong in the missing spaces on each row. If that doesn't make sense then just look at the pick of the solution below. Don't look if you don't want to see the actual solution.

http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12in8.jpg

[I Love Cookiemonster]

a hint would be that you need one of each in each column and the rows are "offset" by one or more "clicks". Also, the crosses on the manuscript are the ones that belong in the missing spaces on each row. If that doesn't make sense then just look at the pick of the solution below. Don't look if you don't want to see the actual solution.

http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12in8.jpg

Seeing the picture it still doesn't make any sense but at least i can now continue. Thanks

[Pete23]

Hi!
I have the full version of BS4, and im in the very end, the first puzzle is getting me headache, i tryed to position the crosses like in manuscript, carrying, down and crucifixion:

like \ |- |

EDIT: Got trought this one, but now the problem is Knight door (it wont budge)

[Dale Baldwin]

Seeing the picture it still doesn't make any sense but at least i can now continue. Thanks
In the first row as you progress from left to right the cross rotates 45 degrees anticlockwise.
In the third row the cross rotates 45*3 degrees anticlockwise.
So in the second row the cross will have rotated 45*2 degrees each time.

[Pete23]

How to get trought the Knight door?

[jtoast]

Read the manuscript. The latin words provide the answer.

[jtoast]

read the manuscript. the latin provides a clue.

[Rjupiter]

Read the manuscript. The latin words provide the answer.


Uh, that does not expalin how to get through the door with the figure of Jacque De Molay on it.

[Dale Baldwin]

Part of the text does.
Specifically the bit about "warm heart" (or similar).

[I Love Cookiemonster]

In the first row as you progress from left to right the cross rotates 45 degrees anticlockwise.
In the third row the cross rotates 45*3 degrees anticlockwise.
So in the second row the cross will have rotated 45*2 degrees each time.
ahhh now i get it. thanks dale. I probably would never have figured it out on my own.

[Rjupiter]

Part of the text does.
Specifically the bit about "warm heart" (or similar).


which part would that be? cause I did not find it useful for that part all. fine for previous puzzles but not that one.

[Pete23]

The master shall show the way trought the warmth of his heart i guess but doesn't help opening the door ;D

[Rjupiter]

The master shall show the way trought the warmth of his heart i guess but doesn't help opening the door ;D

uh, ok I must be missing something in my game then, cause I don't have anything with that text on it.

[Pete23]

i have it the second end line, but it doesn't help opening the door, warm heart what that descpritives

[Rjupiter]

i have it the second end line, but it doesn't help opening the door, warm heart what that descpritives


well what is one thing you have in your inventory that can make things warm?

[Pete23]

arrhh dont get it, can someone give some more tips using this "warm heart" thing?

[Pete23]

well what is one thing you have in your inventory that can make things warm?

Lighter? Ive tried it as all items in my inventory :D

"Using that wont work"

[jtoast]

Lighter? Ive tried it as all items in my inventory :D
Tough to give another hint without completely giving away the solution but I will try.

The lighter is not what you use first. The lighter needs something to light

[Pete23]

I used all my items in inventory, not helping. Can someone specify the item to be used? Thanks!

[Dale Baldwin]

The Topkapi map

[Pete23]

Tough to give another hint without completely giving away the solution but I will try.

The lighter is not what you use first. The lighter needs something to light

I dont have any candles if you mean that. Darn this is hard :D

[Pete23]

The Topkapi map

:D i tryed all of them, but i guess I missed that one then

[Patti]

I've asked Anna Maria 3 times to take the letter from the reception desk while I distract this receptionist chick with the glasses. Each time she agrees to but doesnt!

I've now run out of questions to ask and she still hasnt taken it!! What am I doing wrong please????

[Dale Baldwin]

You need to distract the receptionist further with George before Anna Maria will do anything.
Make sure you have taken a look at the photo on the reception desk.

[jtoast]

I've asked Anna Maria 3 times to take the letter from the reception desk while I distract this receptionist chick with the glasses. Each time she agrees to but doesnt!

I've now run out of questions to ask and she still hasnt taken it!! What am I doing wrong please????

Have you looked at the picture on the desk? gives you a new conversation topic if I remember right.

[Patti]

Thanx boys kiss kiss

[tifa]

"Mama Martino
Push the large trash container onto the forks and operate the machine to lift the container. "
large trash container where????

[I Love Cookiemonster]

"Mama Martino
Push the large trash container onto the forks and operate the machine to lift the container. "
large trash container where????Spoiler brackets? It's to the right

[tifa]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2598/1wy1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

İ'm not finding :((

[Dale Baldwin]

It's at the top of your screenshot.

[Skizzo]

Hey guys. I'm stuck at a point as well. Well not really stuck, because I think what I have to do is fairly straightforward, but I cannot seem to get it.

This is where I am:

I am at the monestary garden for the second time, so it is night. I'm assuming that the monks are walking in a pattern and that I just need to go around that pattern and go to the door on the end, the same door which George entered the last time he was there. I haven't tried using the bread again, but since pigeons don't fly around at night, I assume that the bread isn't part of the solution.
As I said, I assume it is a simple pattern in which the monks walk, but I am terrible at these sneaking things, so could anybody please tell me how to get through this part?

[I Love Cookiemonster]

Hey guys. I'm stuck at a point as well. Well not really stuck, because I think what I have to do is fairly straightforward, but I cannot seem to get it.

This is where I am:

I am at the monestary garden for the second time, so it is night. I'm assuming that the monks are walking in a pattern and that I just need to go around that pattern and go to the door on the end, the same door which George entered the last time he was there. I haven't tried using the bread again, but since pigeons don't fly around at night, I assume that the bread isn't part of the solution.
As I said, I assume it is a simple pattern in which the monks walk, but I am terrible at these sneaking things, so could anybody please tell me how to get through this part?

I walked just straight trough there at the first try. Just right down the center and the guy with the lamp walked away at just the right moment. However i feel that there's a bit of luck involved in that.

[Skizzo]

Thanks. I'll try it that way then.

[BrokenswordMaster321]

im Stuck on defusing the Bomb in Anna maria's Room. i heard that you have to Connect the mirrors but i dont have a clue how. also if anyone has a Save just past this point i,d be very grateful. email the save if you have one to Grandmaster376@lycos.co.uk ;)

[tifa]

It's at the top of your screenshot.
Thanks you, i'm finding :D

[I Love Cookiemonster]

im Stuck on defusing the Bomb in Anna maria's Room. i heard that you have to Connect the mirrors but i dont have a clue how. also if anyone has a Save just past this point i,d be very grateful. email the save if you have one to Grandmaster376@lycos.co.uk ;)
Do it yourself:pan: There are 2 mirrors which reflect on both sides.

[Patti]

Didnt anyone else get stuck at the gate at Topkapi Palace.

I changed the photo on the id card, but the second guard knew I was an imposter and shot me:frown:


I can see the scaffolding at the side of the palace, and have tried to get over there but keep getting hauled back, and Anna maria is acting daft and wont help me.

Any clues here please?

Not even any spoilers??

[Patti]

Its okay I've sorted it out now, just being a bit lazy.......

[maria0130]

Hello, i have quite a problem decoding the manuscript for good, while in George's office. I tried several times, read the manuscript, hacked the PDA, looked at the manuscript again (btw, here George doesn't wanna say too many extra things from the first reading) and then he doesn't want to move on at all! I'm stuck here for hours repeating all those scenes and hackings....is there a specific order to click on images AFTER George hacks the server? I's appreciate your help very much...it tried everything and replayed whole scenes over and over again.

[Patti]

I dont think so Maria.... if you keep looking and clicking the manuscript, George will know where to go

my spoiler tags must be wrong....its showing....sorry...oh, was just bad spelling..oops

[maria0130]

then maybe i have a bug....i clicked the manuscript everywhere dozens of times...my head rings from all the words...i must click only images or text too?

[maria0130]

or maybe i should replay the whole thing again from getting the manuscript at the factory

[Patti]

Maria ..... you must keep reading the text also, look especially at Saint George on the right hand side of the manuscript

[Patti]

is it just guys that know how to work water pipes?

I've tried turning the valves off and on, and stopping the flow of water going downwards, but nothings happening

[Pankake]

you see there are 3 pipes overall, but only one pipe goes all the way to the left, if there is a pipe with the valve above it, direct the water dow, but for the pipe that goes all the way to the left make sure the valve is pointing left.
Like this for example:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/pankake2005/Misc/pipes.jpg
Hope that helps.

[atjd]

Hi,

I have talked to the receptionist who I got out of the cleaner's room and the police man and the hotel manager. All topics of conversation have been used up. I went back to George's office and tried using the golf club on the door that has something jammed behind it, but was unable to get the door open.

I have tried everything, look, use, using inventory items on things in the office, and have tried to get Anna Maria to help me open the door.

When I click on the safe next to the blocked door George just shrugs his shoulders. Does the safe next to the blocked door have any relevance?

I have looked at the map when I try to exit the Bail Bond's office and the only location that is available is Alfonso's hotel, but I've tried everything I can think of in the hotel.

Alan.

[Clandes]

Hi, Im in the Saint Michael factory (Rome) with the nuns... How can I get rid of Sor Serena to open the emergency kit or stop the machinery?

I can distract her throwing the box, but seems it is not enough.

Thanks in advance ;)

[Patti]

Ahh bless..thank you Pankake for that little diagram, thats so helpful.

[Patti]

Alan why do you want to go through that door?

[Clandes]

Hi,

I have talked to the receptionist who I got out of the cleaner's room and the police man and the hotel manager. All topics of conversation have been used up. I went back to George's office and tried using the golf club on the door that has something jammed behind it, but was unable to get the door open.

I have tried everything, look, use, using inventory items on things in the office, and have tried to get Anna Maria to help me open the door.

When I click on the safe next to the blocked door George just shrugs his shoulders. Does the safe next to the blocked door have any relevance?

I have looked at the map when I try to exit the Bail Bond's office and the only location that is available is Alfonso's hotel, but I've tried everything I can think of in the hotel.

Alan.

you need to get to Mama Martino's factory... Show the cigarretes to the officer. They can be obtained at George office. I think that is the problem...

[Dale Baldwin]

I can distract her throwing the box, but seems it is not enough.
You are a health inspector, so make something nearby unhealthy. Having her distracted is the first step.

[Pankake]

No problemo Patti.

[Clandes]

You are a health inspector, so make something nearby unhealthy. Having her distracted is the first step.

Well, that is what I was trying but I can't to anything :(... something about bread or salami?

Better... do I must do the unhealthy thing while he is distracted with the box?

[Dale Baldwin]

Definitely that disgusting bread!
There's a box on a table nearby in which you can hide it, but you might have had to try and use it/talk to her about it before George will actually put it there.

[Pankake]

The bread is mouldy, it would mean it's been there for a long time.
Plant it somewhere obvious while she's cleaning up.

[Clandes]

Definitely that disgusting bread!
There's a box on a table nearby in which you can hide it, but you might have had to try and use it/talk to her about it before George will actually put it there.

Damn, i tried it and it didn't work... I will try it again, THANKS

[lopo]

well the thread name say's it all :P i have in invetori only one thing and it is Bracket and i cant do nothing :(

i look of the revolution site for hints and there is something about the nun but where the heck is she ? i have not seen eny nun's :P

nevermind i got past that place

[nomarch]

i know its supposed to be on the far right of the wall in one of the ramparts (i assume its the TOP part of the wall when youre on the scaffolding) but ive pixel hunted the entire region and cant find anything can someone post a jpg or give me a specific location and directions??

many thanks!!

[nomarch]

ok found it, was looking on the wrong part of the thing

[Pankake]

Ok, my turn to get stuck...
At Anna Maria's appartment, bomb in the kitchen, got ten minutes to hack into the millitary database to get bomb defusal information, it's driving me nuts..

[psisal]

@Pankake:
It drove me nuts too until it was pointed out to me that there are two types of mirrors, which differ (slightly) in appearance. Find them and I think it'll be a lot easier to figure out the routes.

Now for my question, towards the end in the catacombs:
Are we supposed to be able to click on all of the Latin text? For some reason, my cursor will only respond on the second and fourth clues (i.e. I can only read those).

[tifa]

Hi, i'm stuck again.
"Topkapi Palace
One of the guards has left his phone lying on the wall"
i not see phone, where phone? Please can you show it with a screenshot ?

[tifa]

İm finding tanks.)

[maria0130]

sorry to bother you again and thanks for all the answers. I must be the only unfortunate player whose manuscript doesn't work properly. Believe me, I've tried absolutely everything, i've played lots of adventures but this thing here just doesn't work!!! I hacked the pda, clicked everywhere in the manuscript, even clicked several smart combinations words+images, loaded the game, tried over and over again...it won't get me forward, it doesn't recognize what the fortress/citadel should be... i followed all the indications on the forums, even found a walkthrough http://www.justadventure.com/Walkthroughs/BrokenSwordAOD/BSAOD.shtm
where it sais : "After you have read all of the notes of importance, click on the fortress, the idol and the first line of Latin on the manuscript and a light bulb will go off in George’s head as he makes the connection between all of these clues and claims that it’s time to go to Istanbul in search of treasure."
.....and still nothing! Would it be too much if i asked for a savegame or a VERY correct sequence of how i should click on the various parts of the page...because otherwise i can't play anymore. If however i would succed it would be sheer luck, because i've already tried everything. Thank you

[FrostbittenYeti]

Once you have clicked on all the hot spots on manuscript, you have to read the notes you hacked from the pda.

[Pankake]

Yes, read all of the notes, the red words means you can click on them and access more notes on the highlightes words.

[FrostbittenYeti]

I am right near the end now, I think. I have the second manuscript in the game and am trying to get through the door with 3 circles with crosses on them. i have realised it has something to do with how jesus is with, the cross on manuscript (Carrying the cross, laying the cross down and actualy on the cross) but can not figure out how it goes on the locking mechanism for the door. Just a clue would be good as i have come this far without any help.

[FrostbittenYeti]

I think once I had read the notes, I looked at the manuscript again with the new information and Georgie boy worked out where to go next. I am sure you have probably done that so sounds like its a bug in you're copy maybe. have you tried uninstalling the game and reinstalling it again. That may help.

[Dale Baldwin]

Just a clue would be good as i have come this far without any help.The positions on the manuscript don't refer to the three movable dials.
More info:
They refer to the three gaps in the grid, which then should help you spot a pattern.

[FrostbittenYeti]

Ah ha! Ok can't wait to get home and have a look at it now. I am at work at the moment. Was unable to look at the walkthrough as the website is blocked here, which is a good thing as a think a little nudge in the right direction is better than the complete solution. Thanks for the help.

[BS4 LOVER]

Oke so this is really dumb. I started playing and everything went well.
Untill I finished up at the meat packing factory. I'm now back at the bail bonds with the manuscript, I hacked the system I already had my second look at the manuscript. I've clicked on everything in the Database from Lobineau. But when I look at the manuscript and click on the first line George keeps saying: But wich Fortress, then I click on the Fortress and on the Idol but still nothing happens. There is supposed to be a lightbulb going of in George's head but he just won't figure it out. :frown:

I'm getting frustrated after 2 hours of clicking

[maria0130]

sure i've read all pda notes and now i'm in the same situation as BS4 LOVER.
I'll try reinstalling the game

[BS4 LOVER]

Well I don't think it's a fault in the game, we must have missed out on something small, but what?

[psisal]

It was mentioned that there are 18 clickable points in the manuscript you need to have clicked on. Plus, the notes on the PDA aren't always just "one page" - you need to have clicked through to the second page.

[BS4 LOVER]

Yes I read everything but still george won't figure it out

[FrostbittenYeti]

have you tried talking to everybody? i am just trying to remember exactly what i did. i will restore a previous saved game tonight and do that part againg to see what I did.

[BS4 LOVER]

I would appreciate that, maybe you know what I missed. I talked to everyone but I must have missed out on something I don't believe it a bug in the game.

[maria0130]

well, the number of hotspots you said is correct, of course i clicked on all and of course i read all the pages on pda...i reinstalled the game, it still won't work, i am in a dead end. i will keep trying a few hours more and then...i think i have to ask for a savegame.

[tifa]

İ'm stuck sewers:
1. levers: left
2. levers: left
3. top lever must be turned downwards and the bottom lever to the left.
4.valves close
5.valves close
?????

[tifa]

well, the number of hotspots you said is correct, of course i clicked on all and of course i read all the pages on pda...i reinstalled the game, it still won't work, i am in a dead end. i will keep trying a few hours more and then...i think i have to ask for a savegame.

Your inventory inside mp3, give Virgil

sory i'm little speak english:\

[Patti]

Maria, actually the part that got George to say Istanbul was when he looked at Saint George, remember he told Anna maria that he came from Turkey, and not Great Britain?

Thats what swung it for me anyway.

Good luck.

[maria0130]

the mp3 player is history already, i couldn't get Virgil help me without it in the first place. (And when I say i tried everything i mean that, i'm stuck here for 2 days already) Anyway, I love adventure games and played a lot of them and i don't think that a bug like that or whatever it is should stop me from enjoying the game...i should be able to move on! this is not a puzzle solving, this is a bad sequence that won't trigger in my game. I am not well accustomed to forum rules and i don't know if it's ok to ask for a savegame, but please, i need one! I really like this game, it has an old BS flavour mixed with new stuff

[maria0130]

i'm sorry patti, that doen't trigger it for me...in fact, nothing does.

[psisal]

@maria0130
Hmm... Can you give me your sav game? I'll try fiddling around with it.

Edit - I won't be able to get to it right now but I can check the situation out in a few hours if someone else doesn't get to it first.

@tifa
I don't remember the lever sequence, but the point is:
You want to maximize the pressure inside the pipes. George will comment on how much water is going through the pipes if you click on the circular gauge near the left end of the path. Make sure you're turning the levers so that you're maximizing the amount of water that flows through the pipe with the gauge on it. Once it's really high, experiment. Something will begin happening.

[tifa]

save files
download (http://www.adventuresoul.com/saves/broken.topkapi.rar)

[psisal]

Sorry tifa, I didn't mean your sav files. I don't think you're that stuck. I'm trying to help maria to see if there's a bug going on.

[FrostbittenYeti]

Tiffa:


once you have got all the levers in the right order when you go right to the end there should be water gushing out. George will say something like "The water is realy coming out now". Go to close to it. can't remember if triggered automatically or if you had to click on it but a block should come out where the water is gushing.

[BS4 LOVER]

Is this the savegame right after the whole manuscript riddle?
I want to be sure that i'm not missing part of the game

[fat]

I am stuck on the end.You have answer on the same question but I cant see pictures on forum,I dont know why,and that is the reason that I am asking from you to describe me in words somehow.I am at the far end of the game where I have to rotate three crosses.I know that I have to look in the map but somehow I cant make it...thanks:)

[lopo]

I am stuck on the end.You have answer on the same question but I cant see pictures on forum,I dont know why,and that is the reason that I am asking from you to describe me in words somehow.I am at the far end of the game where I have to rotate three crosses.I know that I have to look in the map but somehow I cant make it...thanks:)

yeap im in the same spot rite now and i lookt at the hint site agein :P but from there i c that i have to look rome manuscript and c where the crosses are pointed well and something about angels ... sorry but i dont c eny angeld on the manuscript and the jesus crosses are in the top right curner on the manuscript and if i wrote them on a paper and tried to make them in the puzzle but nothing is happening ... i but them like they where on the picture and i but them like it say's by george and i but them in the other way ... like the picture in the office had these hourglasses on the picture was different then in the puzzle

Edit: i found one pic for the puzzle and dont need any help no more so the game is over for me

[maria0130]

Thank you very much for the savegame, i'll try it now, i was away for a while

[maria0130]

It works!! Thank you very much!! You saved me from a lot of trouble!

[Patti]

I did pm you Maria with the offer of the save some hours ago, but you didnt see it.

Glad you got it sorted anyway. Good luck with the rest of the game.

[Stuck]

Just like in Pete's case, the first puzzle in the Catacombs has been giving me a headache the past couple of hours. :frown:

I've looked at the Rome Manuscript countless of times by now and tried all variations of the crucifixion my simple mind could come up with. :frusty:

What am I not seeing here? :crazy:

Any help appreciated, thanks in advance.

[RLacey]

This is the puzzle where you have to turn the dials with pictures of the cross on, right?

Okay, here come the hints (in order of increasing spoilerage):

Look at the changes along the rows, not the columns.

Look at the number of points rotated by the crosses, and the direction in which they turn.

And the solution (big hint then final answer):

In the top row, the crosses rotate one point anticlockwise each time. In the third row they rotate three points each time. So what does the second row do?

The crosses in the second row have to rotate two points anticlockwise each time. So, from lef to right, the positions you want are with the top of the cross pointing diagonally up and right, diagonally down and left and diagonally down and right.

[Stuck]

Thank Heavens! Playing nonstop most of the day must have made me blind to the obvious. Hopefully I can finish this now and get some rest :z

*Edit* Finished at last, time for that rest.

/Bows to RLacey

[atjd]

Hi,

I have been looking at the notes obtained from hacking the database with the pda. I have clicked on every hyperlink on every page, and when I try to leave the bail bond's office George says he has to do more research on the manuscript.

Am I missing some vital piece of information somewhere, because I can't go to another location until George's finished his research.

Alan (atjd).

[atjd]

Me again,

Solved the problem myself. I had to do some pixel hunting for a couple of items on the manuscript that I hadn't moused over before!

Now in Istanbul.

Alan (atjd).

[bungalobill]

sorry to bother you again and thanks for all the answers. I must be the only unfortunate player whose manuscript doesn't work properly.

Hey Maria...your problem is probably not on the manuscript. On the PDA, under text, you wont find the required text unless you have your screen on a certain resolution. I was running at 1024x748 (or whatever) and couldn't see all the text. I switched to the highest resolution (under options) then used my mouse scroll button to scroll through the text line by line. Your mouse pointer has to be on the text before the scroll will work. The little arrows below the text box don't seems to work, so this appears to be a bug.

There's a heck of a lot there other than what is available at a lower resolution. For example, at the lower resolution, all I could see was the heading 'Baphomet', and under that link there were only a few other links like Templars, etc.

As you scroll through the text at a higher resolution, you will find more hot spots (links). When you click on them, George will make comments and finally he will get the name required to move on. Note: you probably have to examine every point on the manuscript as well.

[bungalobill]

I've clicked on everything in the Database from Lobineau. But when I look at the manuscript and click on the first line George keeps saying: But wich Fortress, then I click on the Fortress and on the Idol but still nothing happens. There is supposed to be a lightbulb going of in George's head but he just won't figure it out. :frown:

I'm getting frustrated after 2 hours of clicking

there is a bug. Check my reply to Maria. If your screen resolution isn't set high enough, you don't get all the required text. I set mine to the highest resolution available and used my mouse wheel to scroll through the text. The mouse cursor has to be on the text.

[bungalobill]

Am I missing some vital piece of information somewhere, because I can't go to another location until George's finished his research.

Alan (atjd).

yes. See my reply to Maria. There's a bug related to screen resolution.

[tifa]

Tiffa:


once you have got all the levers in the right order when you go right to the end there should be water gushing out. George will say something like "The water is realy coming out now". Go to close to it. can't remember if triggered automatically or if you had to click on it but a block should come out where the water is gushing.
Thanks but not happen, please send me save files:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[Skizzo]

Thanks but not happen, please send me save files:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:


I had the same problem at first. What worked for me was:

Closing the valve right next to the loose brick and then opening it up again.

[bungalobill]

1)be sure your brightness/contrast are adjusted. If you are groping in the dark you wont be able to see the routing of the pipes. Once the brightness/contrast is set right, you should be able to see quite well.

2)follow the routing of the pipes from where you came in.

there is a gauge near the end. It shows up as a gauge with the brightness/contrast set right. There is only an eyeball on it and George will tell you whether the water is running, running a bit or has good pressure. Adjust the valves so the water is routed to go through the pipe with the gauge, with no water escaping anywhere.

When it's routed right, the gauge will indicate high pressure. Go look at the point where the pipe exits into the wall. You have to do something to a stone.

[bungalobill]

I am stuck on the end.You have answer on the same question but I cant see pictures on forum,I dont know why,and that is the reason that I am asking from you to describe me in words somehow.I am at the far end of the game where I have to rotate three crosses.I know that I have to look in the map but somehow I cant make it...thanks:)

the puzzle is a load of bs. I wonder where these game authors study their logic? I solved it by brute force.

turn leftmost cross one turn clockwise. Start with second cross from right in 12 o'clock position. Rotate third cross from left through complete rotation CW. Move second cross from left one position CW then rotate 3rd from left through complete rotation. Repeat as necessary.

Get the idea? It doesn't take long to hit on the solution. You may have to move the leftmost cross one more position and go through the same steps with crosses 2 and 3.