Greatest Adventure Game of All Time? [Archive]

James

09-16-2003, 09:48 AM

Grim Fandango.

I really don't have a problem with the controls, and I played it with a keyboard. No other game inspires and evokes emotions in me. In Grim Fandango you are given no freedom. Instead you are given the best game script ever. You are given characters that will make you laugh and cry, and puzzles and locations that will astound and amaze. A classic, a perfect adventure.

RemiO

09-16-2003, 10:11 AM

Toss up between Monkey Island 2 and Grim Fandango for me. Though DOTT also comes close. And Broken Sword I. So many classics :~

The Poisoned Pawn

09-16-2003, 10:46 AM

The Pandora Directive. It's simply THE best. There's no way around it.

Carlius

09-16-2003, 10:53 AM

I would say SOMI! ahh the nostalgia :D

Wajus

09-16-2003, 11:24 AM

Strange question... is the end of the world coming anytime soon? :confused:

So many women so little time.

"Tilling my own grave to keep me level"

Nellie

09-16-2003, 11:38 AM

Kode

09-16-2003, 11:45 AM

In my own book (which is a very small one, by the way), I'd have to say Monkey Island 1 and 2 and Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.

They represent all that I desire in a good adventure game: good graphics (yes, they have good graphics), good story, some comedy, and on the edge excitement-giving. :D

I haven't played so many of the other good games, though - no Grim Fandango, no Syberia, etc. :(

DustCropper

09-16-2003, 03:29 PM

My favorite is Grim Fandango. I wasn't bothered by the controls mainly because I was too immersed into the story and atmosphere to notice any faults.

twifkak

09-16-2003, 03:51 PM

My favorite is Grim Fandango. I wasn't bothered by the controls mainly because I was too immersed into the story and atmosphere to notice any faults.
The first time I played I was bothered by the controls (not to mention the elevator patch I didn't know about.. GRR), and never enjoyed a bit of it. The second time, I was glad I played it a second time.

Sevenine

09-16-2003, 04:46 PM

As obvious as it is, I say Grim Fandango. The game has everything. Great storyline, humor, puzzles and overall atmosphere. And LENGTH. Gotta love a beautifully crafted epic. I just hope it won't end up being LEC's very last adventure masterpiece (don't we all?).

hagstrumpa

09-16-2003, 04:48 PM

I nominate Grim Fandango!
I am with you!

MeddlingMonk

09-16-2003, 04:57 PM

Strange question... is the end of the world coming anytime soon? :confused: [/I]

We can only hope.

The real question is: when the world ends, will there be an exit interview? And we will have to use ink on the form?

Ginny

09-16-2003, 05:23 PM

Wow, I had no idea so many people would choose Grim! I played it on keyboard too, and there are simply too many great things about, both large and small, to try to list.

I do think that this thread is inappropriately named, as perfection is different for everyone, and thus there can be no adventure that is everyone's favorite. That'd be boring! Instead, this thread would work better as "What it is your perefect adventure game ever?" That being said, Grim Fandango is flawless in every aspect in my eyes, despite the keyboard controls. They don't make the game less good, they just make it different. I could go on about how great the story, puzzles, characters (each and every one is perfect), dialogs and voice acting are, aswell as music, sound effects and :9~ cutscenes, but some of the best things are just the tiny little details you may not notice until you've played it several times. Why do I say that perfection is relative then? Even if a game with the exact perfection of Grim, in every aspect, but with everything enchanced, I would still love Grim more.

remixor

09-16-2003, 05:33 PM

Grim Fandango. I've written about why too many times to muster up the strength to do it again.

nordic_guy

09-16-2003, 06:32 PM

Grim Fandango! For all the reasons above and a couple more.

VoodooFX

09-16-2003, 06:35 PM

Grim Fandango, for my own SELFISH reasons, BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA :devil:
Nah, just the greatest adventure game ever.

mrdunn

09-16-2003, 06:39 PM

I say nay to the idea of DOTT as best adventure. Within its scope, DOTT is flawless, but its scope isn't as far-reaching as other adventures. Its plot is more 'tie the unrelated comedy set-pieces together with time-travel' than an actual flowing storyline.

My vote goes for GK1, despite some flaws.

You all say you played it with keyboard...of course you did, there's no other way to play it. (Or is there joystick support...*shudder* I can't imagine what that would be like) Anyways, I agree about the comments on DOTT, so I would have to go with any of the GK games (been so long since I played one, I forgot all about them :pan: )

Erwin_Br

09-16-2003, 07:24 PM

Grim Fandago for me too. I was so totally immersed in it's world, I remember I almost cried when finishing the game. ;(

Seriously, I can't remember any game that immersed me more.

DOTT is second runner up because it was so complex and original at the time.

--Erwin

DomStLeger

09-16-2003, 09:23 PM

For me it's a toss up between The Last Express (though a small number of other adventures come very close seconds and I'd probably change my mind tomorrow :D).

TLE is a master piece; with a large winding and engaging plot, innovative game play and amazing production values. When it was made it was the most expensive game ever made, in all genres ($15million I think was the figure). There are few games that manage to come close to the feeling of immersion achieved in TLE. And it has an astounding replay value.

ragnar

09-17-2003, 01:25 AM

(Can't remember if I posted in this thread before :))

The Last Express is clearly the best adventure game ever. It has it all plus that extra bits to make it a true classic.

ragnar

09-17-2003, 01:26 AM

For me it's a toss up between The Last Express (though a small number of other adventures come very close seconds and I'd probably change my mind tomorrow :D).

Between TLE and ? You seem to have missed something in the post. :)

Ariel Type

09-17-2003, 01:30 AM

Monkey Island 1-2. They just have nothing to complain. Gabriel Knight 1 is also close to it (but it has some things to complain).

neovsmatrix

09-17-2003, 01:31 AM

Any of the GK games, IMHO. I liked Sanitarium better than Grim Fandango, but they were all excellent games.

Wajus

09-17-2003, 02:00 AM

So... does anyone have some working links to The Last Express Demo? :D

twifkak

09-17-2003, 03:03 AM

I'm not going to pick a favorite, for the moment, 'cause I haven't played millions of adventures (including the GKs) yet. The favorite I've played is probably TLE, but don't make much of that. (I think it was $5-6, not $15. Shenmue, which came out later, was $75, though. :P)

I had this link to the demo (http://www.msu.edu/user/vandrag2/games.html) lying around. Does it work?

remixor

09-17-2003, 03:06 AM

Does it work?

Nope. I never had any luck finding a demo of that game, so I finally just found a copy and bought it (and it was worth it).

Wajus

09-17-2003, 03:07 AM

I had this link to the demo (http://www.msu.edu/user/vandrag2/games.html) lying around. Does it work?

I'm afraid not.

twifkak

09-17-2003, 03:38 AM

K. Well, google away. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. (Gamesdomain.co.uk? They were the lone soul to hype the game up, so it'd be a little stupid for them not to have the demo.)

Wajus

09-17-2003, 04:06 AM

K. Well, google away. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. (Gamesdomain.co.uk? They were the lone soul to hype the game up, so it'd be a little stupid for them not to have the demo.)

You think I haven't tried? GamesDomain links doesn't work anymore. Neither does the one on official Last Express site.

The search is still on...

Ginny

09-17-2003, 04:11 AM

Kode

09-17-2003, 04:14 AM

Ginny, can you please send me the demo too?

I've been hoping to play the Last Express demo for a long time, but since my non-finding it on the main site, or anywhere else I happened to look, I thought I'd never find it!

Please :D

If it's a yes, here's my e-mail address: krkode @ vkarts.com (no space there, obviously)

twifkak

09-17-2003, 04:24 AM

krkode @ vkarts.com (no space there, obviously)
*inserts krkode's email address into a spam database*

bewaretheturnips

09-17-2003, 04:29 AM

Any of the GK games, IMHO. I liked Sanitarium better than Grim Fandango, but they were all excellent games.

Sanitarium over Grim? Sanitarium is fun and all, but it isn't even on the same plane as Grim Fandango. : )

twifkak

09-17-2003, 04:36 AM

The search is off.

Demo (http://ftp.interplay.com/pub/demos/lastexpdemo.zip)

Kind of spoilery:
Trailer (http://ftp.interplay.com/pub/movies/lastexptrailer.zip)
Behind the Scene (http://ftp.interplay.com/pub/movies/lastexpmakingof.zip)
Sound clips (http://ftp.interplay.com/pub/sounds/lastexpsndclips.zip)

Get it while it's hot, folks. They've been there for a while (that's where I got mine), but if a bunch of you dl em, Interplay might actually notice that they're hosting files for a game they no longer support.

Zanthia

09-17-2003, 04:36 AM

Loom! or Goblins? Loom!

PS I never played GF

bewaretheturnips

09-17-2003, 05:09 AM

Loom! or Goblins? Loom!

I'd have to go with Loom too. However, I haven't played much of Goblins. Just a demo. Loom put me in a trance. What a great game that was.

Zanthia

09-17-2003, 05:18 AM

Indeed. with very original intarface. Most fun was using notes instead of inventory and other things.

Naveed

09-17-2003, 06:25 AM

I vote for MI2... it was perfect... yes... even the ending... :)

I played Grim Fandango with gamepad... and it was really immersive experience, I think it was better then playing with keyboard.

Cheers,
Naveed

Wajus

09-17-2003, 07:57 AM

What are you talking about, hard to find? I've had the demo for a long time now, I don't remember where I donloaded it but I really liked it and will get the game at my first chance naturally ;). Anyway, if you can't find the demo, I can send it to you. I think I downloded it from either the official site or that Gamespy site, or something :P

I found a lot of links but all were broken. All the download sites seem to delete their old demos. As I already mentioned even the official TLE site stopped hosting the demo file.

However during my search I found nice page with some old adventure games demos but with no TLE however - feel free to enjoy it:

http://www.adventure-treff.de/specials/downloads.php

The search is off.

Thanks a lot!

Kolzig

09-17-2003, 08:01 AM

On top of all, Secret of Monkey Island on pc and amiga.

Grim was great, the controls was it's only flaw, over 90/100 points game still very clearly.

The background graphics are still breathtaking in Grim.

Wajus

09-17-2003, 08:26 AM

Even I'm eager to agree that controls in Grim Fandango aren't flawless. But it is rather a matter of bugs. The general idea behind Grim Fandango's controls however is simply brilliant. The workmanship even though the bugs is still impressive and remains intuitive.

remixor

09-17-2003, 02:22 PM

Geez, I even some some things in the TLE trailer that I didn't see when I played through the game.

DomStLeger

09-17-2003, 10:43 PM

Between TLE and ? You seem to have missed something in the post. :)

Hehe I originally had 2 games but I decided I couldn't be arsed. Oops... (ok 4 games)

And thanks for the links Twifak; I've got the demo already (btw it plays slightly differently to the game I think; just the order) but the trailer; behind the scenes bit etc are great!

Btw something I forgot to mention, the music in TLE is superb (thouggh used fairly sparingly if I recall correctlt); especially the music over the end credits.

Wajus

09-18-2003, 12:17 AM

Well I just finished TLE demo. It's pretty short and doesn't show much but it really makes me wanna play the full game nevertheless.

twifkak

09-18-2003, 02:19 AM

You guys are welcome... to kiss my ass!

Also, thank archive.org. Yay1

Yes, TLE music was cool. The original score was written by this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0006012/), while the (not original) concert music was by César Franck. The soundtrack is available somewhere, but doesn't contain the concert piece (which I found eventually on amazon, after some poking and prodding).

Ginny

09-18-2003, 03:06 AM

krkode: I would send you the demo but twif already found it: Thanks twif ;) I'm downloading the extra's right now.
Wajus: Hmm, odd, a lot of the links don't work or don't download. Maybe it'll be ok later :)

Skinny Minnie

09-19-2003, 12:08 PM

I cast my vote alongside Dom, ragnar and Twif! The Last Express it is! GF is pretty good, but stinky controls ding it. Plus, I was more immersed in the constant overwhelming intensity of TLE than the more laid-back humor of Grim... I have a preference for thriller plots in adventure games even above humor, though...

Angela

09-19-2003, 05:49 PM

My all time favorite is The Longest Journey; I love the characters, and the story totally engrossed me the first time I played it. I love Grim Fandango--I even like the keyboard controls--but no story in a game has captured me the way TLJ did. I was upset when it was over.

BostonLow

09-19-2003, 06:02 PM

Leisure Suit Larry 3!
I think.
I dunno. I remember it being very good, but my modern PCs can't run it.

D.C.

09-21-2003, 11:55 AM

Gabriel Knight III: Blood Of The Sacred, Blood Of The Damned

vanderwaal

09-22-2003, 03:58 AM

Not going to cover any new ground with this post, I can see. Grim Fandango. The first thing I always think about after the last cut scene of any adventure game has played is whether or not I'd enjoy watching it as a movie. That's why I almost always play through the good ones again. I know the solutions to the puzzles. I know where to go to make the story flow well. It's like watching a movie the second time around. I really dig that. I always thought that would be a great "feature" to add to an adventure game. In the end you should have the opportunity to rewind the entire game and watch it through as a movie. That would completely rock. Most "real" adventure game fans will probably flame to bits for suiggesting such a thing but I think it'd be great. I guess I've gotten off the point here slightly. No other game has given me the feeling of being involved in a really good movie the way Grim Fandango did. For that reason alone it is my favorite all time game. All of the rest of it's qualities are icing. God, I love that game.

vanderwaal

The Adventurer

09-22-2003, 06:58 AM

I'm going to do something a little different here and just post my top 5 list of what I perseave as a greatest adventure games.

1: Grim Fandango (I had absolutly no problem with the controls, though being of by an inch of a door, sent you running left or right a mile, you got used to it. Incredibly fluid story and moody)

2: Zork: Nemesis (I hate Myst and it's many clones, however Zork: N (and Zork: Grand Inquisitor as well) are the exception. Wonderfuly buitiful, with a griping story, a fantastic mystery, a twist ending, soild puzzles, basicly everything that a top adventure game needs)

3: Monkey Island 2: Lechuck's Revenge (Quite possibly the greatest Adventure game ever if it wasn't for a few Puzzles that made no real sense. I personaly loved the ending)

4: Full Throttle (It's short and the Bike Combat will give you fits of frustration, but other then those Full Throttle is near perfect Adventure Game.)

5: Discworld Noir (Incedibly detailed story and setting wise, drawing on all kinds of Discoworld lore. Not only incoperation the Noir Genre but also the discworld equivilant of the Lovecraft Mythos. Some of the puzzles were increadibly difficult because of the Notepad interface, and Inventory bugs were abound. But story wise it's one of the best.)

Migs

09-26-2003, 06:58 AM

King's Quest 8: Mask of Eternity. No, just kidding...Grim Fandango.

DanteGR

09-26-2003, 07:05 AM

I would have to agree with serialfreak.
GK 3.

D.C.

09-26-2003, 12:39 PM

Good choice! :)

SirDave

09-26-2003, 03:15 PM

Much as I love the Scumm games (MI 1-3 etc), I'll have to go along with polls taken by me personally showing that a majority of members of Mensa, individuals with degrees in higher learning and men & women of intelligence, integrity and Solomon-level wisdom everywhere that, in fact, RIVEN is the Greatest Adventure Game of All Time!

Okay, now have at me. ;)

The Adventurer

09-26-2003, 04:25 PM

Much as I love the Scumm games (MI 1-4 etc), I'll have to go along with polls taken by me personally showing that a majority of members of Mensa, individuals with degrees in higher learning and men & women of intelligence, integrity and Solomon-level wisdom everwhere that, in fact, RIVEN is the Greatest Adventure Game of All Time!

Okay, now have at me. ;)Zork: Nemesis was better.

remixor

09-26-2003, 10:18 PM

Obviously, Stupid Invaders deserves the honor. Tamz, care to comment?

Pappapisshu

09-26-2003, 11:29 PM

My personal favourite is Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars. I absolutely love the atmosphere of the game, the brilliant dialogues and the plot. A superb mystery, and combined with the amazing graphics and music, it's the best adventure game ever. It's just my type of game, fits me perfectly.

Though, this thread made me wanna play Grim Fandango more than ever. It's been five years or so since the last time. Oh, and I've been itching to play TLE for a long time as well. I really should import it, as soon as possible...

paul

09-27-2003, 04:56 AM

Grim Fandango.

Tamara

09-27-2003, 08:25 AM

Obviously, Stupid Invaders deserves the honor. Tamz, care to comment?
*grin* I think I've commented more than enough already :D

Bird

09-27-2003, 10:48 PM

Yesterday, I finally finished Grim Fandango. And it is my new favourite. I already know that I'm gonna replay it a few times in the future. Those characters are just perfect!

I also loved MI2, GK1, DotT...(in no particular order)

Zanthia

09-29-2003, 06:28 AM

did anyone mention bad mojo? ma y be its not the best game of all the times, but most originall one for sure.

pleto4_ryan

09-29-2003, 11:17 PM

Last Grim Journey :P

Gabe

09-30-2003, 12:50 AM

Well,i am humble against facts that is Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis !

Leonard Shelby

10-07-2003, 10:49 AM

Blade Runner : defintively fascinating and immersive while being totally faithful to the movie :7

remixor

10-07-2003, 11:05 AM

Well,i am humble against facts that is Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis !

Definitely a contender.

Kode

10-07-2003, 11:25 AM

Y'know there should be an Academy Award for games where great games are awarded for their excellence :P

So instead of pulling random quotes off of random sites for their special edition boxes or websites, they can have "Winner of 3 Academy awards including Best Game" *D

Maybe I'm just day-dreaming :z

ClémentXVII

10-07-2003, 11:27 AM

Zork Grand Inquisitor was a great one too!

remixor

10-07-2003, 11:35 AM

Kr: the problem with that is that the age of adventures is largely over, and such awards probably wouldn't be retroactive ;) Yeah, so that's a selfish reason not to have them. Sue me.

Kode

10-07-2003, 11:43 AM

Kr: the problem with that is that the age of adventures is largely over, and such awards probably wouldn't be retroactive ;) Yeah, so that's a selfish reason not to have them. Sue me.
Well the idea was to include all genres, just like the film Academy award includes all genres. :D

Given the games industry is relatively new, I'm such a thing will soon come up. Afterall, it took movies also some 10-15 years to get the Academy Award going, didn't it?

velvet_fireball

10-18-2003, 08:21 AM

Well I think I'll take a leaf out of The Adventurer's book and list my top 5 (in no particular order).

Monkey Island 1 - because it's the first adventure game I ever played. I still play it now and still love it.

The Longest Journey - I just finished playing this game yesterday so I don't know whether it actually qualifies as one of my fave games because it's still fresh in my mind but right now I still love it.

Simon the Sorcerer - yeah I know it's not one of the best games out there but it's another one of those games that brings back memories from my childhood and it makes me laugh every time I play it.

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - all I can say about this one is that it was fantastic, I loved the puzzles and thes storyline and it was great that there was a new Indiana Jones story besides the three movies (btw I'm not including all those Young Indiana tv shows with that).

Monkey Island 2 - Just as good as the first one. Largo was a nasty piece of work but his themetune is great. The ending was a bit confusing I know, didn't like the whole 'I'm really a kid' thing but that problem was solved in CMI.

Simon the Sorcerer 2 - Call me a sequel lover if you like, I'm really not. Some sequels really do suck but I liked this one because for one thing it re-visits one of my fave games and for another thing there's a lot of imagination in it. I always love the sort of games, tv shows and movies that take exisiting fables, fairytales and stories and make new stories from them or re-invent them.

Anyway I know my list might seem a bit rubbish compared to other peoples choices but I haven't played Grim Fandango or Day of the Tentacle so I can't vote for those but I'm sure they are great games if so many people are voting for them. I'll have to see if I can get a copy of GF but I can't say the same for Day of the Tentacle.

DomStLeger

10-18-2003, 08:29 AM

hehe thats top 6 :)

try Gabriel Knight 3 or Broken Sword 1 for something different if you haven't already btw

Henke

10-18-2003, 08:43 AM

Greatest Adventure Game of All Time?

Impossible to say.

Sanitarium, Monkey Island 2 or Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis.

twifkak

10-18-2003, 09:13 AM

Well the idea was to include all genres, just like the film Academy award includes all genres. :D
Well, the most popular game awards currently are the E3 Awards (http://www.e3awards.com/) and the AIAS Awards (http://www.interactive.org/newsandevents.asp?show=140&thetype=1).

Curt

10-18-2003, 10:11 AM

As of right now I'd have to say The Pandora Directive, but my top 3 or 4 adventures tend to compete for top spot depending on how I feel at the time of answering the question (the others being Zork Nemesis, Spycraft and TLJ).

As for the greatest adventure game of all time - I'm extremely hopeful that it hasn't even been made yet. :)

Kingzjester

10-18-2003, 10:22 AM

I don't know how ANYBODY could POSSIBLY nominate Grim Fandango with that off the wall, alarming, horrendous, ghastly, terrible, counterintuitive, disturbing, idiotic interface??!!1!?@@>?1!!!11one

(Don't worry Stinger - ol' buddy ol' pal - I've got you covered)

DomStLeger

10-18-2003, 11:19 AM

Um Mr Kingzjester sir, um I happen to agree with him

Annoymous Broccoli

10-18-2003, 11:21 AM

Grim Fandango.
In Grim Fandango you are given no freedom. Instead you are given the best game script ever. You are given characters that will make you laugh and cry, and puzzles and locations that will astound and amaze. A classic, a perfect adventure.

holy mac & cheese batman, the best game script ever written is Planescape Torment :shifty: Monkey Island 1,2,3 and The Last Express top the list as my favorite adventure games of all time.

Curt

10-18-2003, 11:23 AM

I've ...... never ...... played ...... The ...... Last ...... Express. :o

So now I'm intrigued (again) and downloading the demo. ;)

Kingzjester

10-18-2003, 11:33 AM

Um Mr Kingzjester sir, um I happen to agree with himThat's what I say! Evan for Governor of California!

DomStLeger

10-18-2003, 11:43 AM

That's what I say! Evan for Governor of California!

Damn right, thats 2 votes for a second recall... how many more do we need now?

(p.s. do I need to live in california...? damn!)

twifkak

10-18-2003, 12:56 PM

Um Mr Kingzjester sir, um I happen to agree with him
Kingz doesn't acknowledge that other people exist.

(p.s. do I need to live in california...? damn!)
Nope. That wouldn't even make the list of Top 10 voter frauds, so feel free to vote.

remixor

10-18-2003, 01:24 PM

Well, the most popular game awards currently are the E3 Awards (http://www.e3awards.com/) and the AIAS Awards (http://www.interactive.org/newsandevents.asp?show=140&thetype=1).

The AIAS Awards are nice, but aren't the E3 awards for games that aren't even completed yet? Seems kind of silly to me.

futumtch

10-18-2003, 02:34 PM

My favs include in no particular order...

MI 1 & 2
All 3 Gabriel Knights
Fate of Atlantis
Cruise for a Corpse

davez82

10-18-2003, 06:49 PM

gabriel knight 2 is the bomb.. and i still think the acting in that game rivals any video game i've seen to date, even voice acting.

twifkak

10-18-2003, 07:15 PM

The AIAS Awards are nice, but aren't the E3 awards for games that aren't even completed yet? Seems kind of silly to me.
Yeah yeah yeah ok fine. AIAS awards then. Scamper along now, little doggy.

velvet_fireball

10-18-2003, 10:36 PM

hehe thats top 6 :)

try Gabriel Knight 3 or Broken Sword 1 for something different if you haven't already btw
Oopsie, didn't realise I'd put 6 instead of 5. Boy is my face red. I've played Broken Sword 2 but it was on rental so I only had it for a few days. I liked it but, as with so many things, I could never find a copy after that.

How can it be that I've never heard of Gabriel Knight 3? Sheesh I've been out of the adventure gaming world for waaay too long!

Oh btw, has anyone played Syberia, I only heard of it recently and was wondering whether it was any good?

Curt

10-18-2003, 11:08 PM

OK, I have now finally played The Last Express demo. I must say I like the style - very original. :) I only died about 10 times in that fight scene before I figured out what I was supposed to do (how many of you also clicked just about every part of the screen to see where the gun was? :rolleyes: )

Oh well, maybe in another 5 years I'll either have found it in English on ebay or else I'll have finally learned German and purchased one of the many that are on offer at ebay.de

..............

Tamara

10-18-2003, 11:35 PM

the best game script ever written is Planescape Torment
:kiss:

I will now proceed to have your babies

velvet_fireball, back to Maths 101 :D

Kingzjester

10-19-2003, 10:23 AM

Kingz doesn't acknowledge that other people exist.Oh, but I do. Other people are very important. They walk around and about me, taking up processing time of the universe and keeping the world from ending too soon.

velvet_fireball

10-19-2003, 07:29 PM

:kiss:

I will now proceed to have your babies

velvet_fireball, back to Maths 101 :D
Ok ok I suck at maths. It's something I don't exactly shout from the rooftops. ;( I'm not really stupid, just a bit sucky at maths.

Oh, and since I've had a couple of days to mill over it I've decided that my greatest adventure game is not The Longest Journey with Monkey Island as a close second.

remixor

10-19-2003, 08:45 PM

Oh, and since I've had a couple of days to mill over it I've decided that my greatest adventure game is not The Longest Journey with Monkey Island as a close second.

"Not" or "now"? :confused:

Zanthia

10-20-2003, 01:57 AM

nowt. What about some text Ags?

velvet_fireball

10-20-2003, 05:27 AM

"Not" or "now"? :confused:
Oh dear I'm not doing myself any favours am i? First the maths thing and now my spelling. Seriously I'm not a retard, just having a bad day/ few days. Plus I'm just a teeny bit nervous about making a good impression with you guys.

What I meant was that my greatest adventure game is now The Longest Journey rather than not my greatest adventure game.

twifkak

10-20-2003, 06:35 AM

Plus I'm just a teeny bit nervous about making a good impression with you guys.
That's right, if you don't make a good impression we'll beat you up and still your calling card... virtually. Well, it made sense in my head. :P

"A famous monk once said, I don't always know what the right thing to do is, my Lord, but I think the fact that I want to please you pleases you."
I don't think a famous monk actually said (http://bartlet4america.org/extras/sndialogue.html) that, though.

GreatPumpkin

10-20-2003, 06:46 AM

I will have to be incredably original and say Grim Fandango.

So here is my list of Best Adventure Games No One Is Mentioning:

1. Sam and Max Hit the Road: This honestly baffles me. If Grim Fandango had a hot sister you wanted to be set up with, it would be S&M. The art is just as impressive, the humor is just as funny, the puzzles are even more bizarre and twisted, but in a good way. And it has a more traditional control scheme for those who couldn't wrap the GF one around their heads for some unknown reason.
2. Space Quest 2: Evil salesmen clones, shrinking machines, and a puzzle that involves ordering a mating whistle by mail. Classic.
3. King's Quest 4: This is one of those games I haven't touched in years, but as I remember, it was the peak of one of the most definitive adventure game series.
4. Police Quest 1: Yes, this series went into the FPS crapper, but the first couple were nothing but tasty.
5. Gold Rush: A personal favorate. At a time when Sierra adventures were pretty formulaic, Gold Rush went in some different directions and
I thought it was great. It was like smashing Oregan Trail and Kinq's Quest together in a delicious smoothie.

twifkak

10-20-2003, 07:15 AM

1. Sam and Max Hit the Road: This honestly baffles me. If Grim Fandango had a hot sister you wanted to be set up with, it would be S&M.
And like all hot sisters, it has a bad ending. :/

2. Space Quest 2:
Space Quest 3.
Evil salesmen clones, shrinking machines, and a puzzle that involves ordering a mating whistle by mail.
Putting ladders in your pants, the Two Guys from Andromeda, and a puzzle that involves an Orat on a Stick.
Classic.
CLASSICER. :P

James

10-20-2003, 07:42 AM

nah, sam n max is like grims older brother, you dont want to mess with grim, or sam will hit you with a mallet. 4.5 - a pox! and so forth.

twifkak

10-20-2003, 07:48 AM

http://www.adventuregamers.com/forums/images/smilies/lol.gif

Maccas

10-23-2003, 01:58 AM

Yeah, I wanted to be all "I'm so different" but I can't go past Grim Fandango, I had absolutely no problems with the interface whatsoever, but I used a gamepad, truly great games don't have to be flawless eg.

Deus Ex
-Far too long
-absolutely awful graphics
-scripting bugs

GK3
-buggy
-little to no music and repetitive music

Planescape Torment
-well some great games are flawless ;)

remixor

10-23-2003, 02:03 AM

Yeah, I wanted to be all "I'm so different" but I can't go past Grim Fandango, I had absolutely no problems with the interface whatsoever, but I used a gamepad, truly great games don't have to be flawless eg.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes I think "Man, everyone says Grim Fandango, it's too obvious." Then I think for a while and go "Never mind. There's a REASON it's that obvious."

BuG2FiX

10-23-2003, 02:16 AM

Sam & Max did give me some pleasant nights behind the computer i must say. im waiting for the sequel!

More recently, i think Syberia also impressed me in one way or the other.

and one more then, max payne 2 (playing as we speak) is soooo coool.

Tamara

10-23-2003, 03:36 AM

Planescape Torment
-well some great games are flawless
:kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

you know what, I like you :D

Maccas

10-23-2003, 04:27 AM

Well I always have gotten on well with he criminally insane ;)

Zanthia

10-24-2003, 03:09 AM

Neverhood. Lets go for neverhood.

maladroid

11-21-2003, 02:40 PM

Well I'll go for Pandora Directive. Besides the fact that I love detective stories and noir settings alltogether, this games has everything I ask for: a great "wanna be this guy" hero who can make complete fool of himself and save the day at the same time, an intruiging, deep story, an amazingly handy interface for a 1st person game and finally an astonishing balance between detective/thriller atmosphere and humorous dialogous. A true diamond.

I have to admit,however, that I also love Grim Fandango and DOTT or even the 1st Gabriel Knight for that matter. Pandora is my all-time favourite though. Hope they finally manage to pull-off that Overseer sequel though I' afraid that even if they do we will have to deal with a 3D modelled Tex Murphy.. Well I guess it will have to do..

twifkak

11-21-2003, 02:53 PM

Welcome to the board, texallos! Please go to:

5 Juniper Street
Santa Clara, The Netherlands CWM-05Z

and knock twice. If the man asks you for your favorite color, it's blue, and if he asks you where the flowers have gone, tell him they've gone GameSpotting. If you do this, he will give you your Official Adventure Forums Starter Pack (now with 20% more cards!). Either that, or he'll fall in love with you.

Feel free to disregard all of the above and just start a thread in Chit Chat saying "Hi!" instead, of course.

remixor

11-21-2003, 04:18 PM

Also, feel perfectly free to post in the default font.

Welcome.

Deshrill

11-21-2003, 05:14 PM

Greatest adventure game ever, eh?

I always have had a soft spot for the first GK game: Gabriel Knight-- Sins of the Fathers. The wonderful variety of music, the exquisite detail of the faces when you decided to interrogate someone, and the maturity of the story all led to an unforgettable gaming experience. I was only 13 or so when I beat it, so there probably was a lot I didn't understand about the plot at the time, but I remember being so impressed at how the characters were portrayed... This weren't the usual "idealistic hero searching for the three gems to save the world"
hero-- they felt like real people.

I was so impressed by Gabriel Knight in the game that I worked for a few weeks on trying to imitate tim Curry's Southern drawl..

colpet

11-22-2003, 12:23 AM

Riven is my perfect game. Everything else I play is compared to it. Close seconds - Dark Fall, Rhem, RealMyst, Black Dahlia, and Schizm.

Wormsie

01-04-2005, 02:23 PM

Grim Fandango.

Hey, I hadn't posted in this thread! I think...

I don't know how ANYBODY could POSSIBLY nominate Grim Fandango with that off the wall, alarming, horrendous, ghastly, terrible, counterintuitive, disturbing, idiotic interface??!!1!?@@>?1!!!11one

(Don't worry Stinger - ol' buddy ol' pal - I've got you covered)

Mattsius

01-04-2005, 03:35 PM

Please go to:

5 Juniper Street
Santa Clara, The Netherlands CWM-05Z

and knock twice. If the man asks you for your favorite color, it's blue, and if he asks you where the flowers have gone, tell him they've gone GameSpotting. If you do this, he will give you your Official Adventure Forums Starter Pack (now with 20% more cards!). Either that, or he'll fall in love with you.
Does anyone have a spare ticket to Holland?

EDIT: And shouldn't you be doing the dishes, wormsie? Slacker! :pan:

Wormsie

01-04-2005, 03:42 PM

I already did those.

Nude

01-04-2005, 04:49 PM

The Pandora Directive. It's simply THE best. There's no way around it.
totally... (am I a fan or what)

Nude

01-04-2005, 04:52 PM

Udvarnoky

01-04-2005, 04:58 PM

Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge

SKIPPER

01-04-2005, 09:49 PM

Grim Fandango.

Hey, I hadn't posted in this thread! I think...

Amen!!!

LlamaFarmer

01-05-2005, 03:53 AM

The Longest Journey

I absolutely loved the story and the characters. The puzzles were perfectly balanced (for me). Hopefully Dreamfall will be even better

--LlamaFarmer

GregD

01-05-2005, 04:24 AM

It's hard for me to seperate these 3... they're all great.

1. Monkey Island 2 - Has it all.. story, hilarious jokes, atmosphere, great puzzles.

2. Broken Sword - Great story, characters which you care about, funny moments, fun puzzles.

3. Indy FOA - Excellent story, characters, puzzles...

Im not a big fan of GF and i dont really know what all the fuss is about. However I did like year 2 in rubacava ... but the rest didnt really grip me.

Naveed

01-05-2005, 08:02 AM

hmmm...

SamNMax

01-05-2005, 10:37 AM

OMG....

Ow Em Gee...

Why haven't more people said The Secret of Monkey Island?!

Kolzig

01-05-2005, 10:55 AM

Ok, I'll say it again, Secret of Monkey Island.

Ninth

01-05-2005, 12:17 PM

The Secret of Monkey Island. :)

Even though Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis and Death Gate are close behind.

Zanthia

01-05-2005, 01:37 PM

Second Kyrandia! :)

Mattsius

01-05-2005, 02:25 PM

I already did those.
Good piddy.... no I mean puppy! :D

Legolas813

01-05-2005, 07:00 PM

DOTT is the best game of all time!

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis comes in at a close second.

LeisureSuitedLooney

01-05-2005, 07:19 PM

Harvester!!!!!

(just kidding)

My personal faves are Zork:Nemesis, Shivers, and others too numerous to mention...yeah, I gravitate toward the dark, morbid stuff. Whee!

imok

01-05-2005, 08:10 PM

I nominate Grim Fandango!

I liked that game but one of the best for me was Full Throttle. Too bad there was no sequel.

I also think Monkey Island Curse and Indiana Jones Atlantis were excellent.

They dont make them like they used to.

Burge

01-05-2005, 09:48 PM

DOTT. Nothing will ever surpass it caoz you can't bring back that feeling of playing great games when you were like 10 years old.

Leonard Shelby

01-05-2005, 10:54 PM

I m giving two winners :

Maupiti Island and Blade Runner

The most immersive experiences of my adventure playing life and what a lot of fun

Ninth

01-06-2005, 05:17 AM

Second Kyrandia! :)

Ah yes, Hands of Fate is something special too...

SamNMax

01-06-2005, 02:09 PM

DOTT. Nothing will ever surpass it caoz you can't bring back that feeling of playing great games when you were like 10 years old.

That's exactly why my vote goes to MI.

100ja a.k.a. mr_mitja

01-07-2005, 07:49 AM

Grimsy!

pinkgothic

01-07-2005, 09:16 AM

My personal faves are Zork:Nemesis, Shivers, and others too numerous to mention...yeah, I gravitate toward the dark, morbid stuff. Whee!

Zork: Nemesis is awesome. :D Now you've made me curious about Shivers. *walks off to research and google*

Jazhara7

01-07-2005, 09:28 AM

LOOM

And "The Legen of Kyrandia" series is a close runner up.

- :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

kitzingmarko

01-07-2005, 01:45 PM

The greatest adventure of all times has yet to be made.

lexxy2u

01-07-2005, 03:57 PM

Tex Murphy's Under A Killing Moon is with out doubt the best all around adventure game ever. It is the kind of game that can stand the test of time, graphics aside, and still be enjoyed each and every time you play it. I have played it seven times myself. :devil:

Zanthia

01-09-2005, 07:03 AM

And the first Simon the Sorcerer is pretty good

Ninth

01-09-2005, 07:50 AM

And the first Simon the Sorcerer is pretty good

Pretty good? Come on, it's a masterpiece. :)

ski

01-09-2005, 10:22 AM

5.full throttle - it is too short but i just love it *D

4.the curse of monkey island- my 1st adv. game if you dont count pq1 but i was 5 years old then and i didnt really know what i was doing :) 8-)

3.gabriel knight 3 - i didnt play first 2 :9

2.grim fandango - controls were messed up..... :frusty:

1.the longest journey - simply the best

Terabin

01-09-2005, 01:08 PM

I think my favorite is Sanitarium. It drew me into the game for the entire experience, mostly because I loved the story so much. The artwork was incredible too. But I suppose a favorite is different from the best. I acknowledge that there are probably better games out there technically!

Max is an awesome name by the way. Random thought.

demented_yam

01-09-2005, 06:14 PM

<<<<<<<<

you can tell from here

DOTT all the way

and in second place:

the neverhood

:)

Crypto

01-16-2005, 05:14 AM

Without a doubt

1) Monkey Island 1,2 (AMIGA) & 3
2) Grim Fandango
3) Day of The Tentacle
4) Gabriel Knight series (1,2,3)
5) Zork Nemesis

If I had to put in a 6th, it would definitely have been: Riven

The 7th would be: Discworld II-Missing Presumed?!

8) Under A killing Moon

9) Zack Mc Kracken and the Alien Mindbender

10) Sam&Max hit the road

Sorry, just couldn't help it... :shifty:

As for number 11...

Zanthia

01-16-2005, 09:14 AM

111! give us 111!:)

Crypto

01-16-2005, 01:50 PM

111! give us 111!:)

Well since you ask for it, on place 111: Liath.
Definitely the worst I've ever installed. (not played for more than 5 minutes) :P

Jazhara7

01-16-2005, 02:19 PM

Well since you ask for it, on place 111: Liath.
Definitely the worst I've ever installed. (not played for more than 5 minutes) :P

Never heard of it.

But it would make a good name for a Dragon in Anne McCaffrey's "Dragonriders of Pern". A blue one, maybe.

- :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

bLindslded

01-17-2005, 06:51 AM

1. Grim Fandango :)

2. Monkey Island series

Hammerite

01-29-2005, 06:52 AM

NOMINATIONS BE
Grim fandango
monkey island 2
monkey island 3
longest journey

Mr Goodsoup

01-29-2005, 10:39 AM

I think GF is a good game I got it a few months ago but on the 3rd year it crashed at the light factory but i'm going for monkey island (1-3) but not 4

ragnar

01-29-2005, 02:43 PM

Pretty good? Come on, it's a masterpiece. :)
No, Simon1 is an idiotic game. Worst puzzles in an AG ever.

The Silent Dude

01-30-2005, 06:35 AM

No, Simon1 is an idiotic game. Worst puzzles in an AG ever.

?! How many have you played? Two? ;)

Just kidding but I really think there are lots of titles with far worse puzzles out there. I remember Tony Tough which "featured" the most absurd and unlogical puzzles I've encountered lately.

Risingson

01-30-2005, 06:39 AM

Well, yes, but in Tony Tough you didn't have to walk that much at least.

There's something about AdventureSoft games that I really don't like. Maybe the excessive distance between open scenaries, maybe the excessive length of dialogues which don't add information or fun factor, maybe that the main character is someone you can't like.

ragnar

01-30-2005, 06:42 AM

The problem with the puzzles in Simon1 is that there seems to be no connection at all between the objects you need to combine and what you need to accomplish. Plus that what you need to accomplish is also most of the time rather dim. That the game tries too hard to be funny and doesn't add to the quality of the game.

Ninth

01-30-2005, 02:11 PM

dazsin

02-19-2005, 01:54 AM

1. Broken Sword
2. The Curse of Monkey Island
3. Monkey Island 2
4. Beneath a Steel Sky
5. Simon the Sorcerer

Doing that list makes me nostalgic for the days of 2D point and clicks. If i win tonights lottery i'm gonna pay Lucasarts/Sierra etc to get some in development...! :)

Captain Blondebeard

02-19-2005, 03:01 AM

I have a hard time chosing between BS1: Circle of Blood and MI 1,2, 3

Fairygdmther

02-19-2005, 05:40 AM

I don't think I play the same genre of adv games as you guys. My favs are:

1. Obsidian - totally original, freaky, fun, tough
2. Faust - 7 Games of the Soul
3. Timelapse
4. Sanitarium
5. TLJ

FGM

Bobske

02-19-2005, 06:14 AM

I'm one of the few people who really didn't enjoy Grim Fandango :rolleyes: I hated the interface :( but more importantly I didn't like the puzzles. I had no fun playing this game.

I think the story is pretty cool, the graphics are good, but then again I don't care about graphics in adventure games. The only really great thing about GF was the voice acting and the music... But that's just my opinion :P

I think the greatest adventure game is Gabriel Knight - Sins of the Fathers 8-)

Legolas813

02-19-2005, 10:10 AM

I say Day of the Tentacle, with Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis at a close second.

doremi210

04-25-2005, 11:45 AM

Grim! Heh, did anyone actually played through it entirely with the default spinning controls though? That was frustrating, the alternative mode was better.

I also love MI 1 &2. Just played them recently and just so surprised at how charming they are even with ugly graphics.

mszv

04-25-2005, 12:23 PM

I'll list 3 games that are the "greatest"! The tie is beween

Myst - OK, don't everyone come and yell at me. Anticlimatic ending and all, I really love this game. It's the immersive environments that do it for me.

and

Grim Fandango - what more can be said. I found the controls a little tricky (next time I'll use a gamepad) and it crashed on me sometimes. For all that, it's a brilliant, brilliant game. It's still a tragedy that Grim Fandango never had huge sales. Gee, wonder why Tim Schafer doesn't want to do "pure" adventure games anymore!

The third game is Obsidian - there's something about this game.

captain Nemo

04-25-2005, 12:36 PM

Legend of Kyrandia Trilogy

Mewd

04-25-2005, 08:00 PM

Baffling. Absolutely baffling.

By the way, we're all a bunch of fanatics. But I suppose that's what keeps us dedicated to this genre.

Anyone want to guess what my selection for magnum opus is? You don't have to think hard, just about 90% of everyone else has suggested it as well, except those who didn't enjoy the interface.

Grim Fandango is my favorite adventure game, not for control scheme or puzzle design, but because it had perhaps the most engrossive story and atmosphere I have seen in the genre yet. I have gone through the game at least five times, and the presentation, even at its now dated appearance, never fails to draw me in. It's an experiance I'll take to my grave, and it's what I love about adventure gaming. I feel that Grim Fandango represents the genre at its peak, because it showcases the one thing that other genres have a difficult time portraying: Methodical story telling, and convincing, witty scripting. The game is well rounded, and while it isn't perfect, it comes close enough to make the flaws tolerable.

If you disagree, you're entitled too. There were more than a couple other posts that I didn't agree with. I couldn't stand Myst or Syberia, and that's enough to get you shot in this kneck of the woods.

I want involvement. Syberia and Myst had atmosphere, but the actual interaction felt so alien and distant. I want to sympathize with the protagonist rather than explore and unravel curious surroundings. Grim Fandango was a fairly leniar game, but it needed to be to tell its story.

lumi

04-25-2005, 08:14 PM

Grim Fandango is my favorite adventure game, not for control scheme or puzzle design, but because it had perhaps the most engrossive story and atmosphere I have seen in the genre yet. I have gone through the game at least five times, and the presentation, even at its now dated appearance, never fails to draw me in. It's an experiance I'll take to my grave, and it's what I love about adventure gaming. I feel that Grim Fandango represents the genre at its peak, because it showcases the one thing that other genres have a difficult time portraying: Methodical story telling, and convincing, witty scripting. The game is well rounded, and while it isn't perfect, it comes close enough to make the flaws tolerable.
:beer: For you the beer I pay.

Mewd

04-25-2005, 08:17 PM

Wanna rye? 'Course ya do.

Eye-Z

04-26-2005, 05:34 AM

What upsets me, i got to watch my uncule and cousins play games like

monkey island 1 and 2
panamora detective
tex murphys under a killing moon
indiana jones and the fate of atlantis

seeing puzzles and parts at a time not even all the way through, and i have some fond memories but brief ones since its been so long now.

luckily i've managed to play all the monkey island games for myself.

though I've got to say its between Grim fandango and BS1 for myself

I feel that if i had the chance to play those games i mentioned it may well be different

i've been looking for TLE express as well as...panamora detective
tex murphys under a killing moon
indiana jones and the fate of atlantis

for awhile now...anyone got a UK site selling these?

Kaparen

04-26-2005, 02:04 PM

My favourit adventure game of all times is TLJ. Longing fro dreamfall...

Simo Sakari Aaltonen

04-26-2005, 03:01 PM

Holy crap! This thread was started back in 2003! Get a life, you people!!!!!!!

:D

Mewd

04-26-2005, 04:35 PM

You get a life for us and report back when it's reached a social peak.

frozenhamster

04-26-2005, 04:37 PM

WOW!!! A lot of support for Grim there. I actually can't call Grim the best yet (I only just secured a copy of it). My opinion?

Tie= Broken Sword 2, Curse of Monkey Island.

I know that a lot of you will be all like "BS2?!? That's just BS!", but I think I can explain.

For a good few years ('93-'97) I didn't really have access to computer games. It was only in late 1997 that my dad brought BS2 home and installed it. Right away I was taken by the fact the installation take over 200MB. Then, when the first cutscene rolled and I realized that I didn't quite understand why it felt like I was entering into a series I started loving it. I actually didn't know that this game was a sequel.

I don't quite remember the circumstances of the time, but I do remember not being able to have access to the internet so I was walkthrough-free*. I was also amazed by the graphics (the closest I had seen before was MI1&2 and DOTT but I didn't quite remember those). And I just loved the story so much. I couldn't get enough. It was like I was reading an Indy novel. The only drawback I ever found was what later turned out to be a bug near the end that caused me toplay most of the second half again. *This got me agitated enough to track down a walkthrough through a friend.

MI3 was the second game my dad brought home. I loved it just as much. The only thing that stopped me from loving it more has always been the entire ending sequence in the circus. And can you believe that by then I had forgotten all about MI1&2 so I didn't realize this was a sequel either.

Please bare in mind as well that I have never been able to track down a copy of BS1. Judging from reviews and opinions it is quite a bit better than BS2, so I would probably love it even more than any game ever.

Simo Sakari Aaltonen

04-26-2005, 11:52 PM

(Actually, I was hoping you guys would get a life for me...)

I nominate Star Trek: Judgment Rites because it is simply the game out of which I got the most fun and replay value. Grim Fandango has nothing on ST:JR's sense of freedom and heart.

Mewd

04-27-2005, 12:42 AM

I never played any of the numerous Star Trek PC games, personally.

Possibly because I never actually got to see much in the way of Star Trek itself. Eheh.

For me, a game that qualifies for 'Bestest thing ever' is one that makes me laugh. Freddy Pharkas: Frontier Pharmacist, Starship Titanic, Zork Grand Inquisitor, and Space Quest Six certainly won't win any awards for best design from me, but the fact alone that they can get me to crack a grin is suffient reason to play them over and over.

Ninth

04-27-2005, 02:29 AM

Simo Sakari Aaltonen

04-27-2005, 02:38 AM

Apart from the two adventure games from Interplay (the first was Star Trek: 25th Anniversary), there are very few ST games likely to interest an adventure gamer (The Next Generation: A Final Unity and Deep Space Nine: Harbinger are AGs, but nowhere near as good as those from Interplay).

My second choice for greatest adventure game of all time would be Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis. It strikes me as the most successful Gesamtkunstwerk in our beloved genre so far. :P

Other candidates would be Gabriel Knight 1, Broken Sword 1, Gabriel Knight 3, the two Laura Bows, the first Sherlock Holmes from Electronic Arts... There is actually very little to choose between all these favoured titles of mine. Each deserves to be played and played.

Captain Blondebeard

04-27-2005, 11:34 PM

Maybe I've already posted here, but...
To me, the greatest AG of all time is Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.
It has it all: great graphics, witty dialogs, heaps of puzzles (most of which are inventive and clever), humour, adventure, some well-done (and easy) action scenes, nice music, three paths, and a bitchy yet seductive sidekick.
I may be one of the few who enjoyed Last Crusade over Fate Of Atlantis.

Best game ever is Broken Sword 1, hands down. Story, voice, music, graphics. I felt as if I was in the game while playing.

Litrick

06-11-2005, 02:10 PM

Another vote for Grim Fandango. The atmosphere that game created was amazing...

Xman

06-12-2005, 04:04 PM

Broken Sword 1 is my favourite easily... no game in the history of gaming has come close to matching its genius as far as I'm concerned.

morriss

06-13-2005, 03:20 AM

Another vote for Grim Fandango. The atmosphere that game created was amazing...

Yeps :) I'm still harping on about it...

Mojo

06-13-2005, 04:00 AM

As far as I'm concerned, I vote for MI1&2, with S&M2 ( sorry,S&M1 :) ) and day of the tentacle just behind. Grim Fandango is a great game, but one the first to use 3D, with flawless, like awful HUD interfaces and moves.
I played recently a strange ( the strangest I played since Eternam ) but excellent game, despite the realisation and poor graphics ( 256 colours - or 16?- ), Sanitarium. He deserves a good place in votes:)

Ninth

06-13-2005, 06:03 AM

As far as I'm concerned, I vote for MI1&2, with S&M2 ( sorry,S&M1 :) ) and day of the tentacle just behind.
Sam and Max 2 doesn't exist yet...

ZakMcKracken

06-24-2005, 06:36 AM

Its Zak McKracken for me, without any doubt. I would nominate it to be the best game ever made =)

http://c64.users2.50megs.com/Images/zakcover.jpg

Theowne

06-24-2005, 10:51 AM

In terms of old, I liked KGB & Lost Eden, both by Cryo. Seems kind of opposite, KGB was painfully hard and Lost Eden was ever so easy. The reason I liked KGB was because of the sense of urgency, and the portrayal of locations in Russia (also the music fit the mood well too, creating a sort of depressing mood). Also, while hard, when you finally got it right the sense of accomplishment was very fulfilling. Lost Eden I liked because of the cool story idea and the visuals. Although it's really more of a storybook than a game, it was a really good one. The music was great and I even bought the soundtrack (incidentally, the music for both these games were by Stephane Picq - does that show his versatility or what?).

In terms of Semi-old, I liked Amerzone because it succeeded in Immersing me in it's large world, and the atmosphere was great, though some people call it a Myst Clone. I also liked Syberia for obvious reasons and Myst IV.

Oh yeah, Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis was pretty fun too.

trocopasso

06-24-2005, 01:19 PM

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
Broken Sword and the Shadow of the Templars
Gabriel Knight III
The Longest Journey

If i had to pick just one it would probably be Broken Sword.

Ninth

06-24-2005, 02:47 PM

Theowne

06-24-2005, 06:00 PM

KGB is an excellent game indeed, in the incredibly tough category. I'd say it's the best investigating AG ever.
But Lost Eden... which version did you play? I played the french version, and the stupid voices, actrociously repetitive puzzles, and abrupt ending more than spoiled the game for me.

I played the English version, and the English voices were quite fitting, especially that of the Pterodactyl. I'd say I actually liked the world and story progression moreso than the actual game, I agree it was repetitive. But I really liked the story and how it unfolded (littered as it was though with errors about dinosaurs - some research would've helped), finding the tribes, the uncovering of your history, finding the Aquasaurus, etc. Liked the overall mood. Have to say , though, 20% of my enjoyment was from the music and the way it was used in the game.

LukaE

06-25-2005, 06:23 AM

Great seven!

1. Grim Fandango - This is one epic adventure, best adventure ever to me.
+ Great storyline, atmosphere, characters, length, 2D graphics, gameplay
- Those damn keyboard controls!
Score: 98%

2. The Secret of Monkey Island - Classic! This game must be the best p&c adventure ever produced.
+ Humour, main character, insult fighting, Carribean atmosphere.
- They should have put more locations...
Score: 97%

3. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - This game has shown that even the great original can have equally great sequel.
+ Humour, storyline, many locations, good old MI1 recipe.
- Confusing ending, lack of "the" island.
Score: 95%

4. Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars - Maybe not strictly humorous, but BS just makes you play it more to reveal every single secret.
+ Fantastic storyline, Templars, main character, graphics.
- Sometimes lacks true gameplay, you can die in many places.
Score: 93%

5. The Longest Journey - produced after the "classic age" it showed that good adventures aren't dead.
+ Best storyline in AG's ever, 2D graphics, two huge worlds.
- 3D graphics, awful ending.
Score: 92%

6. Day of the Tentacle - I really LMAO on this adventure... Those who played it know what I mean.
+ Sick humour, characters, picasso-style graphics, lots of tentacles
- too short, sometimes too illogical.
Score 92%

7. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis - definetly best IJ game, better than Last Crusade.
+ Atlantis, locations, secrets, Nazis!
- Fistfights, why the hell do they give you points at the end?!
Score: 91%

In last three places I would put:
8. Beneath a Steel Sky
9. The Curse of Monkey Island
10. Flight of the Amazon Queen.

But I haven't played Full Throttle and Sam & Max yet, so I can't decide.
Considering Sierra's adventures.. I hate them, all of them.

SamNMax

06-25-2005, 06:24 AM

- 3D graphics,

And Grim doesn't get points off for that?

LukaE

06-25-2005, 06:35 AM

And Grim doesn't get points off for that?

Well, yes it does, but notice that GF portrayed their characters in quite funny way, while TLJ showed their characters as normal human beings.

SamNMax

06-25-2005, 06:38 AM

Well, I don't know if I would really take points off for that. The game is supposed to be set in a realistic setting (half of it, anyway).

samIamsad

06-25-2005, 06:52 AM

Educated guess: Half of the beautiful film noir feeling would'nt have made it into Grim, had they opted for 2D characters.

100ja a.k.a. mr_mitja

06-25-2005, 03:15 PM

Educated guess: Half of the beautiful film noir feeling would'nt have made it into Grim, had they opted for 2D characters.

I agree with that completely, the fixed camera angles gave it an awesome cinematic feel.

Ninth

06-26-2005, 04:17 PM

I played the English version, and the English voices were quite fitting, especially that of the Pterodactyl. I'd say I actually liked the world and story progression moreso than the actual game, I agree it was repetitive. But I really liked the story and how it unfolded (littered as it was though with errors about dinosaurs - some research would've helped), finding the tribes, the uncovering of your history, finding the Aquasaurus, etc. Liked the overall mood. Have to say , though, 20% of my enjoyment was from the music and the way it was used in the game.
Yeah Cryo were good with music.
Did you play Commander Blood?

Theowne

06-26-2005, 06:27 PM

Yeah Cryo were good with music.
Did you play Commander Blood?

Yeah, I played it a long time ago, I can't remember it well though, because I finished it pretty quickly (and lost it). S. Picq did the music for that too. Actually Picq did the music for most of Cryos early games.

dave_minall

07-03-2005, 05:53 AM

i heard they are making a sequel to grim fandango somewhere...

my vote goes to DOTT probably.

way ahead of its time when it came out

James

07-03-2005, 06:48 AM

It's Grim Fandango. I didn't think this would still be an issue for debate :D.

PILMAN

07-03-2005, 11:06 PM

This is going to be really hard but

Kings Quest V: Absence Makes The Heart Go Yonder This was probably the first adventure game I got really hooked to. The voice acting was great, graphics were wonderful and every moment made me want to keep playing the game. One of my all time favorites

Loom One of my favorite lucas arts game. Another game that got me really into adventure games when it first came out. I had the cd version and the story was wonderful, loved the music and graphics were great. Again every moment sucked me in. One of the more serious lucas arts games.

Monkey Island I bought this after Loom I think, it was great to play as a pirate and graphics were superb, loved how you could choose what to say. Very interactive game

Space Quest 4 Technically the only space quest game I have played besides V which I way after it was abandonware. The graphics weren't as great but the backgrounds were pretty decent. The storyline of the future was awsome since I was a big fan of movies taking place in the future etc. I didn't play this game until much later because I was a small kid and got spooked by the cyborg which made me avoid the game for some time.

Ecoquest This probably won't be on most peoples list but since I was a kid I would say this was a wonderful game to play (especially the voice version) to learn about the environment. The game was fun and you learned quite a bit. It made understanding easy.

Those are my top 5 games. I left others out that I have played, doesn't mean they were bad they just didn't leave as much impression to me as these games did.

Isak

07-04-2005, 03:55 AM

1. Broken Sword - The Shadow of the Templars
2. Black Mirror
3. Sanitarium
4. Grim Fandango
5. Monkey Island 2: Lechucks Revenge
6. Discworld 2
7. Atlantis - The lost tales
8. Still Life
9. Moment of Silence
10. Beneath a Steel Sky

seek83

08-20-2005, 12:06 AM

dead or alive: extreme beach volleyball

Guyper

08-20-2005, 12:10 PM

I nominate Grim Fandango!

It's not even Lucasarts' greatest adventure game of all time

Hammerite

08-20-2005, 01:09 PM

It's not even Lucasarts' greatest adventure game of all time Tim Schafer reminds me of Tim Burton, they both make weird things and their first names are both Tim. I think that Grim is LEC's cleverest and greatest AG of all time.

Guyper

08-20-2005, 01:13 PM

Tim Schafer reminds me of Tim Burton, they both make weird things and their first names are both Tim. I think that Grim is LEC's cleverest and greatest AG of all time.

Grim's gameplay was definitely revolutionary. Maybe that's why so many people love it more the others.

La Fawnduh

08-20-2005, 02:04 PM

Gabriel Knight III.
straight up.

Blogga

08-21-2005, 02:37 PM

must be Broken Sword 1: Shadow of the Templars (Circle of Blood)
great character to play as, good logical puzzles, good voice acting, humourous, great storyline, beautiful hand drawn graphics and great secondary charcters

:D

Hammerite

08-22-2005, 12:29 AM

I think Grim Fandango is the best comedy AG, Broken Sword is probably the best serious AG (keep in mind that I haven't played GK) and Fate Of Atlantis is the best Indy AG.

Locue

08-22-2005, 04:40 AM

It's going to have to be a tie between Grim Fandango and Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge.

On second place: Day of the Tentacle.

larry090

06-02-2006, 06:05 PM

Although i love Grim Fandango, if i had to choose one and only one game as the best(which i'm gonna do now,and believe me its hard to choose between 74 or so adventure games i have played),i'd have to say:
GABRIEL KNIGHT 2 THE BEAST WITHIN
I dont think any game has so well rounded and deep plot.Excellent story that has no rival yet(followed closely by:GK1&3,TLJ&DREAMFALL,SYBERIA1,GRIM FANDANGO and not many more).

my 2 cents,
D.

bored

06-02-2006, 09:02 PM

Gordon Bennett

06-03-2006, 01:29 AM

Tch. There's nothing wrong with older games. Graphics are not important. The gamplay is perfectly fine. A great game, just like a great book, or film, or piece of music, will always be great.

My choice for the best adventure game yet released is Sam and Max Hit the Road. Great comedy, superb voice acting, well conceived and interesting puzzles, good graphic design, plus a few mini-games thrown in to provide a break from the storyline. I'm fond of Car Bomb, myself.

Plus, one thing that is a big appeal to me is the Lucasarts safety net. Yuo can't die, or do anything that will render the game unwinnable. I apprecaite having that, because it gives the freedom to experiment and try unusual things without constant saving and restoring.

The Seed

06-03-2006, 02:50 AM

When Is Everybody Gonna Stop With This Stupid Old Games!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!!?!? I Tryed A Few And They Are Terrible.horrible Graphics And Gameplay,wtf Is So Special About Them?try To Play Some New Games.you All Look Like Some Old Guys Talking About Ww2......

You're right, we should all see sense and start worshiping Runaway instead. :shifty:

Why don't you come back when you've learned to type properly and have a little more fleshed out argument.

Tom Bombadil

06-03-2006, 03:08 AM

Black Dahlia best FMV adventure and lots of puzzles:crazy:

Solid Snake

06-03-2006, 06:19 AM

Sanitarium of course there's nothing like it

Ninth

06-04-2006, 05:28 AM

When Is Everybody Gonna Stop With This Stupid Old Games!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!!?!? I Tryed A Few And They Are Terrible.horrible Graphics And Gameplay,wtf Is So Special About Them?try To Play Some New Games.you All Look Like Some Old Guys Talking About Ww2......
Forumite in disguise making a joke, or useless new contributor?
That was funny, anyway, capital letters are underrated.

Let us know if you really want an answer to your question, though.

Iron

06-04-2006, 07:00 AM

Are we talking about the same Grim Fandango here? I'm currently playing the game and based on what I've seen this far it is definately NOT the best adventure game ever! Just finished the Rubacawa part in year two and the whole thing was a huge pointless puzzle-marathon with endless amount of running around in the same places, nothing to hear but "It's locked", "Not picking that up" and my all time favorite: "I don't really want to do that" Go for it Manny! I'm not saying the game's horrible, and since I'm not even near the finish line, I may not be the best person to say. Indeed, I would be most delighted if the game got better after this, maybe then I'd understand what it is that makes it the BEST of the best.

For me, having only played few adventure games (GK3, Syberia, Broken Sword 1, Monkey Island 1 and some that I haven't completed yet) it is hard to declare the greatest of all time, but so far all that I've played have been almost equally good. Syberia and GK3 a little bit better than the others.

The Seed

06-04-2006, 07:20 AM

Just finished the Rubacawa part in year two and the whole thing was a huge pointless puzzle-marathon with endless amount of running around in the same places, nothing to hear but "It's locked", "Not picking that up" and my all time favorite: "I don't really want to do that" Go for it Manny! I'm not saying the game's horrible, and since I'm not even near the finish line, I may not be the best person to say. Indeed, I would be most delighted if the game got better after this, maybe then I'd understand what it is that makes it the BEST of the best.

Syberia and GK3 a little bit better than the others.

Rubacava is widely considered to be the best part of the game, so if you don't like it now, you probably never will.
Also, I find it kind of strange that you give Grim such a hard time for its constantly repeated lines, yet you say Syberia is one of your favorite games, with it's constant "No need to go that way" line, bit of a contradiction don't you think?

Iron

06-04-2006, 08:03 AM

Rubacawa the best part of the game? Maybe I'm not such an adventure gamer after all...

Well I admit, Syberia can be irritating in the similar way, but the atmosphere, story and the overall style of the game reduce the level of irritation, which doesn't happen to me in Grim Fandango. Anyway, it's worth to play even with the things I dislike. Just isn't the masterpiece in my opinion.

AudioSoldier

06-04-2006, 09:56 AM

These threads seem rather pointless to me. Firstly, no one will ever agree on a winner. Secondly, it's difficult to pin-point a "best-ever" adventure game, or a "best-ever" of any genre. At any rate, if I did bother to sit down and contemplate the subject, my choice would be dependant on my mood, rather than any concrete belief that game X was better than game Y.

Melanie68

06-04-2006, 12:30 PM

Also, everyone has such different tastes. It seems a better consensus is come to when you ask what the 'worst' adventure game is. :devil:

Roman5

06-04-2006, 05:00 PM

Yeah it's pointless and I for one will not participate in this nonsense.

Discworld, best adventure game ever. :D

TheBentKangaroo

06-04-2006, 05:14 PM

I think these threads only become pointless when people start to argue.

I can't believe you picked that. That sucks!

It's all a matter of taste. I like seeing what other people think, as long as they're civil about it.

As for me, I haven't read the entire thread, but I'd be willing to bet I'm the first person who's going to say Police Quest 2. Crawling around the sewers with Jesse Baines at game's end is one of the most intense moments I've ever experienced playing an adventure.

Suiton!

08-07-2006, 06:44 AM

Still Life!
Still Life!
Still Life!

Then comes the longest journey.

Terramax

08-07-2006, 02:00 PM

I think, when people mean 'perfect', it means a game which fits the best in all criteria, so is not to be mixed up with 'favourite'.

My fav is Discworld Noir, but it's not the perfect. I'd nominate 'Grim Fandango' because:

-the graphics look great even now and have a unique sense of character both on the level design and characters (unlike other games like The Longest Journey, The Moment of Silence where characters and sets are cliched and have nothing to distinguish between 10 other games)

-has a remarkable story about travelling over a long period of time (that's adventure!). One that, whilst parodies other stories, doesn't become cliched or rip off of others (like Keepsake or TLJ).

-perfect script which is funny but doesn't resort to adult, and comedy that's suitable for any age and gender,

-music that fits the mood at all times.

-attempted a new control style and, at least for me(with a game pad) found it easy to use - and didn't just conform to what was the norm to other AGs at the time

-didn't make a sequel 1-2 years later for the hell of making as much money using the name of the 1st.

Im sure there are other reasons too,

QFG

08-15-2006, 02:08 AM

Another vote for Grim Fandango as probably very best all time...

With Quest for Glory 4 and Monkey Island 2 just behind it. Day of the Tentacle also way up there.

Lodgey

08-15-2006, 03:10 AM

The Hiitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Someone earlier asked why all of these old games were being chosen. I was wondering why so many of the old games were not chosen (Didn't Grim Fandango miss the heyday of adventure gaming?)

No graphics, restarting frequently. However, something just works. It is the game that I have enjoyed more than any other. Graphics are a novelty. Once you get past the 'Ohh, that looks nice' they don't interest me at all. Good puzzles and an entertaining ride is what I look for, and HHGTTG has that in large quantities.

I Love Cookiemonster

08-15-2006, 03:19 AM

Broken Sword The Shadow Of The Templars.
Bladerunner is probably coming on a nice second place

Milad241

09-18-2006, 03:23 PM

it is hard to choose between grim fandango,longest journey and broken sword 1 ...
grim fandango has the best characters and art direction in all games
broken sword has great story and eye-catching graphics but..
.. "Longest journey" is the best!

MartyMcFly

09-18-2006, 03:37 PM

I would have to say broken sword 1. I remember the locations like real places, and every screen excited me with new possibilities. Great installation, with pong to play while you wait, and great gameplay all the way through. Simply stunning, even today. My girlfriend played through it recently and she had a blast. LOng live broken sword! (I just wish broken sword 4 was more stable...as a game it seems pretty good, but the crashes people r getting drives a guy crazy!)

betang

09-19-2006, 04:01 AM

MONEY ISLAND 2: LeChucks Revenge

Zanthia

09-19-2006, 02:26 PM

legend Of Kyrandia

Wreck

09-19-2006, 03:31 PM

*Grim Fandango for pure genious and a Salute to the last good game Lucasarts ever made...

Other than that, Kings Quest 6. Can't beat it.

I notice a lot of you guys are picking Still Life and Longest Journey. Have you actually bought the classics and seen what a real hard game is like? :)

Giligan

09-19-2006, 03:35 PM

Jack Keane. :D

ruggy

09-21-2006, 12:07 AM

Monkey island (all of them)
Day of the tentacle
Fate of Atlantis
The Dig

Well, it seems that i'm a big fan of Lucas Arts :)

kostas

09-21-2006, 01:10 AM

The Curse Of Monkey Island!!!!

Snipejkd

09-22-2006, 09:51 AM

So many greats..Dott, samnmax, grim fandango etc, my favourite i guess would be Monkey island (1+2). Ron Gilbert (creator of these two) has mentioned recently that he would love nothing more than to be given the rights to monkey island so he could create the finale, Monkey island 5...*wishes*
Not forgetting Tim Schafer and Dave Grossman, hired by Gilbert, greatly involved in dott, samnmax and so on...Things are looking up in the adventure world, with the release of Sam and Max 2, Psychonauts etc, roll on good times!

Naveed

09-22-2006, 11:47 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Mi2cover.jpg

fabio_pk

09-23-2006, 01:31 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/68/Mi2cover.jpg

Thumbs up!!!!

Sotaria

09-23-2006, 06:04 AM

legend Of Kyrandia

Yea that was a good underdog and it could stand your votes over at my top ten list, but my number one goes to TEX MURPHY UNDER A KILLING MOON.

aries323

09-23-2006, 08:50 AM

HI :)

I agree that Grim Fandango is a very good as well as innovative & creative
adventure game. So Grim Fandango is the best adventure game ever -
for me.

aries323

TangentBlack

10-16-2006, 11:31 AM

Grim Fandango. I have had nightmares about how good it is.

LeisureSuitedLooney

10-16-2006, 12:13 PM

something good induces nightmares??? :crazy:

Gonzosports

10-16-2006, 12:47 PM

Riven. It's quite possibly the best game of all-time.

nspofford

10-16-2006, 01:06 PM

For me, Monkey Island 2, Day of the Tentacle and Grim Fandango are all pretty much perfect in their own way. I don't think I could honestly make a case that one is superior to the others in any tangible way. They all had extremely interesting (and funny) puzzles, great stories, unforgettable characters, and good graphics.

The most important thing to me is that the puzzles were actually puzzles. Its a bit off topic, but I will never understand the appeal of Broken Sword 1. The "puzzles" were pretty much just talking to everyone around as much as possible. If I wanted to play a converstion simulator I would leave my apartment...